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#21 toni-a

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Posted 14 April 2017 - 05:08 PM

If I were starting from scratch as i said before,D500 would be my obvious choice, IMHO it's the best camera on the market now.
Nikon wants more customers with a cheaper camera with less specs, like the 10D/300D at the time, what's the problem?
If I were in Nikon land or if I didn't own all the canon gear I had, I would surely get it.
Best AF system of all cameras, best AF coverage, decent image quality, other cameras have more megapixels and slightly better high ISO performance good for them, however this one will always have the job done every time

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Posted 15 April 2017 - 01:16 AM

I don't know if you have a Nikon APSc body for your Tammy G2 AO22? 

Nope. Not any more, only old D810, but switched to DX, which is around 16 MP. Good enough for the stuff I do.



#23 dave's clichés

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Posted 16 April 2017 - 06:57 AM

do you use the more expensive XQD cards?

 

 

 Yes I bought  a Lexar 64Gb XQD......and a reader....not cheap either!!

 

   My guess is that the F7500 will sell pretty well for Nikon!



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Posted 16 April 2017 - 10:16 AM

   My guess is that the F7500 will sell pretty well for Nikon!


which F7500?  :D
 
Being a designated proof reader (increases the) sets higher standards I'm expecting from you /

raise my expectations /

make me want to tease you so I can benefit even more from your profund English skills - you name it. Just saying... :lol:
 
Actually, when you read a bit more in the Nikon forums - do you have the impression that the old guys using Nikon will jump on this step back? regress instead of progress?
 
Or the smartphone users who want to do "more with aperture and shutter speed and all that"? I remain skeptical. Just because I'm in this mood. ;)



#25 dave's clichés

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Posted 16 April 2017 - 03:58 PM

   Just to refresh people's memory about the frame rate of the D7200/D7100:

 

   They both have a somewhat average frame rate...(RAW)

 

  in 14  bit lossless compressed mode..5 Fps.....  D7100  6 shot buffer....D7200  I think it's 18 shots

 

  in 12 bit compressed mode.................6Fps         D7100  8 shots...         D7200   around  22+ shots

                                                                                   

  7 Fps only comes in crop mode (1.3 X)    

 

    5 Fps in quality mode is pretty pedestrian and not exactly sportive.  (many remember the headline 7 Fps figure only)

 

   Even the FF D750 does better.. 6.5 Fps 14 bit lossless compressed for 14 images.

 

    The D7500's  8 Fps for 50 shots in RAW 14 bit lossless compressed is a huge improvement over the two predecessors.



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Posted 16 April 2017 - 07:12 PM

with so much disadvantages towards the D500, but also to the predecessors, who cares about +2 fps? Would YOU buy it?



#27 dave's clichés

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Posted 17 April 2017 - 01:59 AM

 I think the camera is aimed at non D500 owners JoJu!



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Posted 17 April 2017 - 09:00 AM

Doesn't answer my question, dave  ^_^ No matter to who it's aimed, there's by far less value in it than the D7000 had when it first arrived the market. Compared to it's predecessors, Nikon took as much functions out as they put new ones in, AF is far less advanced than D500's. What is the reason to prefer this offer over a D5xxx or a still available D7200? Attention, rhetorical question: I actually don't want to know.



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Posted 17 April 2017 - 01:33 PM

I have no need of the D7500, why? because I have the D500, so no, I will not be buying one!

 

 This shot might explain why the D7200 would not cut it for me, I had been going to the river regularly to photograph an egret who fishes on the river, one day 'Bingo" I got him catching a fish, two shots with the fish at the end of his beak, one as the fish was going in his mouth (shown here) and no more...1/2 second it took! 

   For all those days sitting by the river I got three/four images of the "catch" and only one with the fish entering his mouth and that's at 10 Fps.

 Would I have caught the moment with the D7200? probably not, with the D7500? I may have done, maybe not.... but I got the little bugger with the D500.

 

 After all that time sitting by the river for weeks  I would have been gutted if I missed it! 

 

  So yes I "do" care about an extra 2-3 Fps and a whole lot more about 4-5 Fps!

 

  20 Fps would be nicer. ;)  :rolleyes:

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Posted 17 April 2017 - 02:11 PM

Great shot, dave! After all that patience and consistency an earned reward. I know how fast that goes, the one with the crayfish from me was in a burst of less than a second and I didn't even know what was going on - all went so fast, I saw the prey at home on the screen first.

 

Now there are two parts of my question: If you would not already have the D500, would he D7500 be a valid choice for you? Apparently for shots like yours one cannot have enough buffer and fps? The AF was less important since the scene happened on a static spot. So you could prepare nearly all settings to optimal values and just wait until it happens. Could it have been you'd be running out of buffer?

 

And now you have the D500 and maybe want a second body. How likely you would go for a D7500, because it saves some money?

 

Well, we both can save time from now on and leave it the way it is. I guess neither I nor me will buy the D7500. From all my owned Nikons, the most expensive still is with me and in use. I will never make this mistake again and get another second body with different concept of use like the D750. If a second body is a safety must, it is also a must to have two of the same model. If it's different purposes - another story. And if I'm already at the end of the range, going lower in specs needs a very good reason.



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Posted 18 April 2017 - 02:57 AM

I have no need of the D7500, why? because I have the D500, so no, I will not be buying one!
Was this taken with Tamron G2?
Very nice photo Dave.

This shot might explain why the D7200 would not cut it for me, I had been going to the river regularly to photograph an egret who fishes on the river, one day 'Bingo" I got him catching a fish, two shots with the fish at the end of his beak, one as the fish was going in his mouth (shown here) and no more...1/2 second it took!
For all those days sitting by the river I got three/four images of the "catch" and only one with the fish entering his mouth and that's at 10 Fps.
Would I have caught the moment with the D7200? probably not, with the D7500? I may have done, maybe not.... but I got the little bugger with the D500.

After all that time sitting by the river for weeks I would have been gutted if I missed it!

So yes I "do" care about an extra 2-3 Fps and a whole lot more about 4-5 Fps!

20 Fps would be nicer. ;) :rolleyes:



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Posted 18 April 2017 - 07:35 AM

Was this taken with Tamron G2?
Very nice photo Dave.

 

  Thanks Borisbg!

 

  Yes the new and very much improved G2!



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Posted 18 April 2017 - 07:26 PM

Uggh---

 

    I've just found out the D7500 "has not" got an in-body focusing motor.....



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Posted 18 April 2017 - 08:28 PM

That is fortunately fake news, Dave :)

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Posted 18 April 2017 - 08:29 PM

Uggh---

 

    I've just found out the D7500 "has not" got an in-body focusing motor.....

Ughhh-- now you find out that it does have one.



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Posted 18 April 2017 - 08:45 PM

 Fake news from Tony Northrup then!!

  

 

   In the 12th minute........   

 

  In fact it's the Ai aperture coupling ring which has been sacrificed, the camera at least retains the screw-drive motor!

 

 

 

 

 OK I've just ordered a six pack of F7500s!   ;)

 

  OT. Anybody seen Tina S doing Moonlight sonata 3rd movement....Utube?   Amazing!



#37 Brightcolours

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 12:18 AM

Tony stating things that are not entirely true? Who would have thunk it!



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Posted 19 April 2017 - 01:09 AM

Tony stating things that are not entirely true? Who would have thunk it!

 

 A Jack of all photographic trades no doubt! 






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