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#1 Klaus

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Posted 31 July 2017 - 12:06 AM

Really nice

 

http://www.opticalli...zeissbatis18f28


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Posted 31 July 2017 - 04:42 AM

Is That a joke ? A manual focus Lens with an autofocus motor ?????
Come on what were they thinking ?

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Posted 31 July 2017 - 05:50 AM

Is That a joke ? A manual focus Lens with an autofocus motor ?????
Come on what were they thinking ?


What are you talking about?

This is an AF lens. If you use it in manual focus mode, you will drive the AF motor ('by wire').
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Posted 31 July 2017 - 09:33 AM

Thanks for the review.

Welcome back in Sony land :D 



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Posted 31 July 2017 - 10:22 AM

Next ... something smooooooooooooooth .... ;-)


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Posted 31 July 2017 - 10:59 AM

What are you talking about?

This is an AF lens. If you use it in manual focus mode, you will drive the AF motor ('by wire').

Sorry I misunderstood things  :ph34r:



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Posted 31 July 2017 - 05:39 PM

Klaus, how handy is the new LED display of the lens? It looks very cool.

 

Here is one item for corrections "lenses car beat the Zeiss".



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Posted 31 July 2017 - 06:34 PM

They copy text from your review without even a link back ...

http://www.sonyalpha...ide-prime-lens/



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Posted 31 July 2017 - 09:33 PM

Klaus, how handy is the new LED display of the lens? It looks very cool.

 

 

It's really nice, it reminds me what brand of lens you have, every single time you turn the camera on.

 

Apart from that, at further distances you get to see nearest and furthest planes of focus, which is helpful if you want to go for the hyperfocal distance. At nearer distances, it automatically switches to how many centimeters you have in front and behind the subject. You also always get the focus distance of course.

 

It is not that distracting since by default, it's off and it only displays the numbers AFTER you've locked the focus or in manual focus mode. You can turn it off completely or set it to be on at all times.

 

I'd rather like to be able to reconfigure the focus ring as an aperture ring and display the chosen aperture.

 

Also, if you are using Setting Effect OFF, the lens won't care about what aperture you've chosen and will display the DOF scale as if the lens is set to wide open.

 

I could've lived without it but all is nice information. Why doesn't the camera already show all these on the rear screen and inside the viewfinder? Information is there and all displays are electronic.

 

My Minolta 7 (film camera) from the year 2000 shows that information on the rear screen, along with the magnification ratio...



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Posted 31 July 2017 - 10:52 PM

If they made the optics (even) larger could they reduce the vignetting or is it a property of bending the light ? 

 

Do you think they went with a distagon design due to the 7's sensor (i.e, reduce corner incident light)  or did Sony fix that in the camera ?

 

Also it seems that mustache is not uncommon for zeiss (i.e, 21f2.8).



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Posted 01 August 2017 - 05:46 AM

Next ... something smooooooooooooooth .... ;-)

 GM 100mm STF


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Posted 01 August 2017 - 05:53 AM

Agree about the questionable build finish choices. I really don't like this whole smooth "flower bulb" type shape look of the new Zeiss lenses. It seems to completely not match the camera and just lokos ugly. Also agree with the easy to scratch surface finish and crappy smooth rubber ring that is dirty within 5 minutes of use and will oxidise into an ugly grey colour. Why couldn't they stick to the classic ZM style? it would continue to be timeless and would be more durable. Instead these lenses already look like the tacky "futuristic" styles of the 90's pentax power-zoom lenses like the one below. 

 

https://d2ydh70d4b5x...3c98c1b0366.jpg


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Posted 01 August 2017 - 07:15 AM

 Yep it's just plug ugly!



#14 Klaus

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Posted 01 August 2017 - 09:38 AM

Klaus, how handy is the new LED display of the lens? It looks very cool.

 

Here is one item for corrections "lenses car beat the Zeiss".

 

Well, you have a distance indicator in the camera viewfinder so I'm not convinced that it is more than a gimmick. 

 

(thx of the typo - fixed)


There are rumors that this is actually a Tamron design, BTW. 

 

Dave ... you'll love that one ... ;-)


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Posted 01 August 2017 - 11:34 AM


"There are rumors that this is actually a Tamron design, BTW. 

 

Dave ... you'll love that one ... ;-)"

..........................................................................

 

  I've seen it written that optics are from Tamron!    :P

 

  The lens barrel style was borrowed from AC/DC's guitarist's "SLASH's Hat..........

 

   ..........somehow it works better as a hat I think..........it certainly doesn't work as a lens!

 

slash_1.jpg



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Posted 01 August 2017 - 11:44 AM

I see the antique fellows are gathering around again... "lenses have to be cylindrical and metal only", haha.

 

I don't dislike the lens design, I just hate the super-poor quality of the lens hood and front-covers (for the Touit, that is, but it's the same or worse on Batis). Getting no firmware upgrade from Zeiss is another weakness.



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Posted 02 August 2017 - 08:04 AM

If they made the optics (even) larger could they reduce the vignetting or is it a property of bending the light ? 

 

Do you think they went with a distagon design due to the 7's sensor (i.e, reduce corner incident light)  or did Sony fix that in the camera ?

 

Also it seems that mustache is not uncommon for zeiss (i.e, 21f2.8).

The light reduction in the corners will be partly due to the micro lenses of the FF sensor not being able to catch all the light at wide open wide angles, and due to the small back elements, which is forced on the designer due to the narrow E-mount. Making the front elements larger will not cure either..



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Posted 02 August 2017 - 08:47 AM

  The lens barrel style was borrowed from AC/DC's guitarist's "SLASH's Hat..........

 

   ..........somehow it works better as a hat I think..........it certainly doesn't work as a lens!

 

slash_1.jpg

Slash is from Guns 'n Roses, not AC/DC.  :huh:


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#19 JoJu

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Posted 02 August 2017 - 09:42 AM

...and he shoots Leica, not Zeiss.

 

 

:lol:

 

Just kidding. I'm sure he uses a smartphone like all normal persons. ^_^



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Posted 02 August 2017 - 10:41 AM

Slash is from Guns 'n Roses, not AC/DC.  :huh:

 Oops yes! 

  I'm showing my ignorance and non enthusiasm of heavy metal!......I like Slash however.....a cool dude!






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