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Sony α7r III Exmor 42MP

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#1 JoJu

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Posted 25 October 2017 - 10:30 AM

Cool cam: https://photorumors....ally-announced/

 

That will dry the tears a D850 will have caused in the eyes of Sony photogs.  :D

 

Great features: Although only up to ISO 3200 (why?), 10fps (no extra grip needed), Dual slots (finally),  improved AF and USB 3.1 At $ 3200.- a bargain. I could scratch some "but it has not that or this gimmick" and everybody could reply, yes, but it's a lot lighter than D850, not to mention it' doesn't need a grip and is still faster.



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Posted 25 October 2017 - 10:58 AM

Plus the new Sony FE 24-105mm F4 G OSS lens which is the smallest in class and the coming 400mm f2.8 for wildlife aficionados.

Sony is indeed on a roll.

The system is maturing and becoming very, very attractive.


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Posted 25 October 2017 - 11:38 AM

Key new features:

 

  • a9 body
  • Which means AF joystick
  • ...and larger battery
  • ...and double SD card
  • ...and higher resolution EVF
  • Faster AF (a9 is still better)
  • Faster frame rate, 10FPS with AF (a9 is still better)
  • Body has multishot, shoots 4 images to expose every pixel to RGB light
  • ...that gives you 4 RAW files and you have to put them together on a PC
  • Double USB ports so you can finally charge while tethering.
  • 3200$


#4 JoJu

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Posted 25 October 2017 - 11:45 AM

3200 $ is better than α9 ($4500, in Switzerland CHF 5700.- :blink: )



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Posted 25 October 2017 - 12:07 PM

Also just realized that this is one of the cheapest FF cameras Sony has released in the past 3 years. Sony just doesn't want to update A7II.



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Posted 25 October 2017 - 04:55 PM

Plus the new Sony FE 24-105mm F4 G OSS lens which is the smallest in class and the coming 400mm f2.8 for wildlife aficionados.

Sony is indeed on a roll.

 Its bigger than the cannon 24-105

83.45 x 107.15mm vs 83 x 113mm

 

and virtually the same weight

664.5 g vs 664g

 

by class do they mean mirrorless? 


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#7 Brightcolours

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Posted 25 October 2017 - 07:43 PM

Although with the Canon one can debate if one should not also count the extra flange distance, somehow.



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Posted 26 October 2017 - 01:00 AM

It seems they took a new logic this time.

In the past it was like never-ending more megapixels with the same body.

This time, they kept the 42MP sensor and changed almost everything around it: 2x faster AF chip, 3x larger buffer, better EVF, UHS-II SD card, USB 3.1, 2x larger battery etc...

Not sure it it's a sign of sensor maturity or the urgency to react to the D850.



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Posted 26 October 2017 - 01:21 AM

This night I saw a 7rII for the same price as the mark III version - okay, in a shopping window, they had not much time to react on this, but how do the dealers act if they still haven't sold all 7r II with all their "downsides" (real or imagined) and the successor is already announced for roughly the same price? 



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Posted 26 October 2017 - 11:27 AM

It's odd that only the R version is outed at this point, before the "straight" A7. But they'll get to this inevitably.



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Posted 26 October 2017 - 02:05 PM

I hope the 7RII price will now go down...



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Posted 03 November 2017 - 06:27 AM

Its bigger than the cannon 24-105
83.45 x 107.15mm vs 83 x 113mm

and virtually the same weight
664.5 g vs 664g

by class do they mean mirrorless?


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#13 chrismiller

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 10:17 AM

Also I was quoting the sizing of the mk1, the mk2 is somewhat larger. Fair play to Sony. If only they were any near affordable (for me!).



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Posted 04 November 2017 - 12:03 AM

It seems they took a new logic this time.
In the past it was like never-ending more megapixels with the same body.
This time, they kept the 42MP sensor and changed almost everything around it: 2x faster AF chip, 3x larger buffer, better EVF, UHS-II SD card, USB 3.1, 2x larger battery etc...
Not sure it it's a sign of sensor maturity or the urgency to react to the D850.

I would say it is both. 🙂 With huge R&D investment in new sensor tech and several new sensors launched in short time, Sony is bound to start getting money back, so sell in quantities. Same sensor tech and (relative) lower price for a7rIII makes sense. Together with refinement of other features and by drilling down a9 technology into the higher volume product, they aim to make a7r more competitive, even against Nikon’s 850.
For FF users thinking outside SLR box a7III could be very tempting.

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Posted 04 November 2017 - 01:38 PM

For FF users thinking outside the "has to have no mirror" box, DSLRs could be very tempting.



#16 MatjazO

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Posted 04 November 2017 - 03:17 PM

Sure, in principle it can go both ways. 😉

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 12:21 PM

Pretty awesome! Sony goes the Foveon way and calls it pixel shift

 

Okay, that's exaggerated. Pixelshift movement always happens at the cost of adding extra information and needing a pretty stable tripod, but the results are competing MF sensors. Which are also made by Sony  B) It's amazing how much more sharpness lenses can deliver if the Bayer interplation is out of the equation. I just wonder how one can shift a sensor about 5 µm in each direction. and bring the four images back into one.

 

https://www.dpreview...your-landscapes

 

The samples are about what I saw when I compared APS-C Fuji with 12 mm Zeiss and APS-C Sigma dp quattro 14mm - one looked pretty soft and it wasn't the Sigma  :D



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Posted 14 November 2017 - 04:31 PM

Just to be clear: max. ISO is 32000, not 3200.

3200 is the price.  :D



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Posted 14 November 2017 - 05:19 PM

1 $ per 10 ISO...  :D  and the dollars ISO stretch like 50-102400.... 






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