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#1 wim

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Posted 25 October 2017 - 09:55 PM

http://www.getolympu...m-f1-2-pro.html
http://www.getolympu...nsopr_us&ref=CJ

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Posted 25 October 2017 - 11:23 PM

Nice stuff but it's overpriced for what you get from this. 

I'm wondering how many they are selling of these f/1.2 lenses.

I suppose they are probably meant as halo products.

If a pro requires large aperture lenses, he will not go MFT.

That being said they are a little cheaper than a (orig) FF 85mm f/1.4.


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Posted 25 October 2017 - 11:51 PM

I think they are doing well enough, otherwise they wouldn't bother.

Overpriced is relative, of course, it is an opinion.

Yes, they are MFT lenses, and therefore not looking as good from an optical and aperture POV as FF equivalent lenses, when "equivalencing" them, but to be very honest, it is about time that people start looking at these differently, IMO.

Whatever happens, these are F/1.2 lenses, very well made ones for that matter, to very high optical and electro-mechanical standards, in a niche market, and from that POV the price is very realistic considering current trends, if not cheaper than to be expected.

Besides, for enough DoF I normally stop down my 85L to F3.5 or F/4. The 45 PRO will be excellent from wide open, but it will still have to be stopped down to F/1.7 or F/2 to get similar DoF.

Considering my experience with the 25 PRO, I will add the 45 to my bag, and the 12 PRO, also F/1.2, which will likely be announced in February next year. IMO, they will be worth it :).

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 07:21 AM

I suppose they are probably meant as halo products.

If a pro requires large aperture lenses, he will not go MFT.

 

While that seems logic, reality might be another thing, when you are involved in a system you want it to do everything.

Why on earth would a full frame user especially one using a camera like 1Ds or 1Dx get a pancake lens ?? but they are getting it.

Check the sales of Canon 40mm pancake it does not make sense IMHO yet it's selling 

 

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 07:29 AM

Whatever happens, they are MFT f1.2 lenses. Equivalent to FF f2.4 lenses. With MFT image circles. with MFT focal lengths to provide the meant FOV.

I rather have a Tamron 85mm f1.8 VC USD, to be frank. The saving grace for this Olympus 45mm is its weight, but that is to be expected for an almost f2.8 equivalent, of course. It does not render that nicely, by the way?

 

$1200 seems very excessive for a 35mm f2.4 equivalent.



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Posted 26 October 2017 - 07:32 AM

Tall guys either need tall camera-bodies or tall lenses - everything else just hasn't enough space for their fingers. As a medicine person you know about lack of "fine motor control"?

 

:lol:

 

The 45 mm pictures are not overly exhilarating, bokehwise. But if one wants µ4/3, fast lenses with AF and decent build quality (which are still a lot lighter than their "equivalent" bokeh producing colleagues) there's suddenly not much choice.



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Posted 26 October 2017 - 09:08 AM

Ooooh-lala, one needs to be a bit of a flare-fan:

 

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Picture is coming from over at DPReview. Is it only me or ist it massive?



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Posted 26 October 2017 - 09:42 AM

Whoa, and that is somewhat stopped down too. It looks like it wants to compete with my 1967 Canon FL 55mm f1.2!


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Posted 26 October 2017 - 10:15 AM

The bokeh of the 45mm is looking rather good based on the dpreview images.

 

That flare image - honestly - you can produce that with pretty much all lenses out there if you push it - the contrast range in that image is excessive. 


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Posted 26 October 2017 - 10:47 AM

Well, I don't believe that "you can produce that with pretty much all lenses out there if you push it"-part, otherwise I'd have seen it. This kind of situations I was in with a couple of lenses, none was as bad as that sample. Other samples with front light also show some kind of flares I'm used to see in UWA-pics, never in a portrait lens.


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Posted 26 October 2017 - 11:10 AM

I can only "produce that with pretty much only my FL 55mm f1.2".

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 11:14 AM

I don't think MFT users are agonising and splitting hairs over comparisons to FF, else they would not have gone MFT in the first place. I know a few pros who are using Olympus cameras/lenses full time, and since they're still doing that after a few years, they must be happy. For them, these are perfectly valid lenses.



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Posted 26 October 2017 - 11:55 AM

I can only "produce that with pretty much only my FL 55mm f1.2".

 

Yeah, but contrary to the dog picture your flower picture looks beautiful, not as if one wanted to take a dog portrait and instead the lens went the impressionistic path.  :D


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Posted 26 October 2017 - 01:59 PM

This MFT system is just amazing.

I just bought the 40-150 PRO from Olympus : what a lens !



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Posted 26 October 2017 - 03:28 PM

Nice stuff but it's overpriced for what you get from this. 

I'm wondering how many they are selling of these f/1.2 lenses.

I suppose they are probably meant as halo products.

If a pro requires large aperture lenses, he will not go MFT.

That being said they are a little cheaper than a (orig) FF 85mm f/1.4.

 

 

I'm kind of confused. It seems many of the MFT lens reviews mention either the lens being overpriced or less expensive alternatives. Yet the street prices are generally 1/3 of what you list. At least where I'm at.

 

We'll have to see what the real price ends up being. Particularly 6mo to a year after it's release. Plus by this time the new hype is gone, and more importantly to me, most quality control issues should be resolved.



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Posted 26 October 2017 - 06:31 PM

MFT gear in Lebanon isn't sold new, you can't go to a dealer and get MFT, however on the used market some MFT camers pop up every once and a while, since nobody is interested prices tend to be extremely low like olympus pen plus two lenses for 150$



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Posted 26 October 2017 - 07:32 PM

MFT gear in Lebanon isn't sold new, you can't go to a dealer and get MFT, however on the used market some MFT camers pop up every once and a while, since nobody is interested prices tend to be extremely low like olympus pen plus two lenses for 150$

 

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#18 toni-a

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 09:33 PM

that's the actual listing

 

https://olxliban.com...l1-ID6ZOlo.html

 

when they say 140 negotiable this means max 125 $ or even less



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Posted 26 October 2017 - 11:45 PM

I must say I had a good laugh :). The usual comments, nay-saying and "equivalencing" comments cropped up, as expected. :)

 

Let me point you to a few reviews and pictures, for the 45 F/1.2 for now:

 

https://blog.mingthe...-45mm-f1-2-pro/

and

http://pen3.de/blog/...-45mm-f12-pro/#

 

Cheerio!

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 11:50 PM

Why on earth would a full frame user especially one using a camera like 1Ds or 1Dx get a pancake lens ?? but they are getting it.

Check the sales of Canon 40mm pancake it does not make sense IMHO yet it's selling 

 

Canon 40mm is awesome. It is tiny, it is brutally sharp from wide open and it's cheap. It even focuses fast. Focal length is useful for pretty much everything and if you put all these together, you'll see it's something that will never let you down.

 

You point, it shoots. Simple as that. You will not be able to get away with using such a large aperture that everything apart from the subject blurs into nonexistence, no. You'll have to compose properly. It is absolutely awful to use a first because you can't be lazy and get away with it. You have to become a good photographer to use it to its near full. You have to move around. You have to see. You have to think and come up with ways to get rid of unwanted elements. And when you do it all, the results pay off for all the hard work. It rewards you generously. 

 

Or you can bring your favorite zoom lens and zoom in and out until you are pleased.

 

Being a full frame user does not mean you only like hilarously large lenses with light gathering capabilities that would give Stephen Hawking a boner. 40/2.8 is one of the best walkaround lenses made by anyone, ever.

 

A very close contender is the Fuji 27/2.8. Sigma 30/2.8 would be up there too but it inspires no confidence at all, being something made of such cheap plastics.






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