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#1 toni-a

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 11:36 PM

That should be great news for Sony users, focus nightmares with some lenses shouldn't be an issue on mirrorless cameras, not only Sony users will have access to a large selection of good lenses, on the ;on run Sony will have to reconsider its high lenses pricing.

Sigma offers possibility of mount change, so jumping ships can be made a little easier for some

 

https://www.sonyalph...ill-art-series/



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Posted 14 December 2017 - 11:49 PM

Agreed. Looking forward at their next announces. BTW, rumors say that the first should be... YET ANOTHER 35mm (f/1.4)!


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Posted 14 December 2017 - 11:53 PM

I'm not sure if the lenses for DSLRs are so easy to change for Sony mount, but let's hope for the best. Good news, I think.


I'm not sure if the lenses for DSLRs are so easy to change for Sony mount, but let's hope for the best. Good news, I think.


Agreed. Looking forward at their next announces. BTW, rumors say that the first should be... YET ANOTHER 35mm (f/1.4)!

 

And you wanted just another 50/1.4?

 

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Posted 15 December 2017 - 08:42 AM

I'll believe when I see 'em. :)



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Posted 15 December 2017 - 08:56 AM

    At the rate at which Sony is progressing...............how far will it be down the line that Sigma announces that due to lack of demand.....

 

           .........their lenses will only be available "in" the Sony FE mount?



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Posted 15 December 2017 - 09:23 AM

dave, I guess that remark was meant to be sarcastically or funny.

 

I just don't get it  :unsure:

 

Were you saying that you prepare yourself for the time that very old photogs will swing their walking sticks to battle for a battered, badly used 2nd hand Sigma for ther DinoSLRs?  :P



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Posted 15 December 2017 - 10:23 AM

dave, I guess that remark was meant to be "sarcastic" or funny.

 

I just don't get it  :unsure:

 

Were you saying that you prepare yourself for the time that very old photogs will swing their walking sticks to battle for a battered, badly used 2nd hand Sigma for ther DinoSLRs?  :P

  

  Ironicisms  JoJu   B) .. but I wouldn't read too much into it!......don't feel you have to laugh on my part! :P                  ....     It's just that Sony is slowly turning the thumbscrews on the DSLR market.

  The "few Sonyonies" who were then photo-eccentrics, have slowly but surely transformed into a veritable army of "regular guys and respected pros" needing less eccentric reasons for the change.....and Sony gives it to them. 

   What started out as naff batteries and clunky painful AF has now transformed itself into lightning eye detection, follow the subject almost across the whole frame......faster shooting ...and it's accurate.....bla bla bla! 

   While Nikon (at least) has had to counter-market with two mega DSLRs just to keep the boat afloat. I feel was it not for the ML revolution we would have only seen incremental improvements......however Nikon gave us the lot...PDAF LV aside.

   This of course begs the question of where the DSLR can now go?  Whichever way I look at things, it seems difficult to imagine what could be added or improved upon to keep the DSLR in the game. Nikon is finding itself in a cul de sac, blocked in by what is becoming the redundant mirror and prism which is developing into a noose around the neck! .....The dual electronic/optical VF is a proposed idea......but hey!

 

    Nikon has to get the new ML game together pronto......

 

                .....or the only boat it will be able to catch will be full of bananas!  :huh:

 

    Did I say pronto?.......I meant three years ago!  :ph34r:



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Posted 15 December 2017 - 10:45 AM

I don't think, many people really care to stick with an outdated technical concept. It's like asking what horse coaches are good for after the invention of cars?

 

I see some purpose in situations when sensors need to be exchanged by film. I still have a fully mechanical DSLR for post apocalypse  :ph34r:

 

The mirror was a massive improvement instead of changing the mattescreen and the plates. making cameras small and comfortable. Decades ago...

 

It's this kind of development which makes them obsolete, like cars with petrol engines will disappear within the next decades. There's no reason to stick with DSLRs - except we say, thanks for all the development but for now we're good with our high price machines  :D No one needs a mirror to take a picture, direct ways are always better. But also no one needs mirrorless sytsem cameras because they do all kind of thinsg better than any DSLR. Stopping our constant consumption of new models might be hard, but worth a try.

 

Says the guy who now has more lenses than negative film rolls in the drawers... if my photpgraphy improved during the last decade, it was because of the lenses, not the bodies with mirrors in.



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Posted 15 December 2017 - 12:50 PM

like cars with petrol engines will disappear within the next decades

 

Perhaps in a hundred years, but not in decades. Same for DSLR, even though the pace can be faster.


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Posted 15 December 2017 - 01:00 PM

we talk again in a hundred years  B)

 

Horse coaches also didn't dispappear 100% but don't play much of a role in today's traffic.



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Posted 15 December 2017 - 01:03 PM

we talk again in a hundred years  B)

 

Horse coaches also didn't dispappear 100% but don't play much of a role in today's traffic.

 

Yes - the point is agreeing on what we could define the "residual threshold". As you know I'm pretty enthusiast of my mirrorless system, but selling reports aren't telling the DSLR decline story yet...


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Sony a6300, Sony a6000, Sony NEX-6, Sony E 10-18mm F4 OSS, Sony Zeiss Vario-Tessar T* E 16-70mm F4 ZA OSS, Sony FE 70-200mm F4 G OSS, Sigma 150-600mm ƒ/5-6.3 DG OS HSM Contemporary, Samyang 12mm ƒ/2, Sigma 30mm F2.8 DN | A, Meyer Gorlitz Trioplan 100mm ƒ/2.8, Samyang 8mm ƒ/3.5 fish-eye II | Zenit Helios 44-2 58mm ƒ/2 
Plus some legacy Nikkor lenses.

#12 dave's clichés

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Posted 15 December 2017 - 01:15 PM

Perhaps in a hundred years, but not in decades. Same for DSLR, even though the pace can be faster.

  Yes in decades......in fact Europe wants to ban the sale of all diesel and petrol cars by 2040!

  

  Paris wants them banned by 2030!    and will ban very soon all vehicles over 15 years old!

 

  Sony wants to ban DSLRs by the end of the week!  (all except the A99 II)  :angry:



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Posted 15 December 2017 - 01:23 PM

2040... 2030. Curiously, all the high and loud proclaims made by politicians are well beyond the end of their mandate.  :rolleyes:  Curiously, mostly of the (definitely less ambitious) proclaims of the past, that should have been achieved by now, haven't been achieved. :wacko:


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Sony a6300, Sony a6000, Sony NEX-6, Sony E 10-18mm F4 OSS, Sony Zeiss Vario-Tessar T* E 16-70mm F4 ZA OSS, Sony FE 70-200mm F4 G OSS, Sigma 150-600mm ƒ/5-6.3 DG OS HSM Contemporary, Samyang 12mm ƒ/2, Sigma 30mm F2.8 DN | A, Meyer Gorlitz Trioplan 100mm ƒ/2.8, Samyang 8mm ƒ/3.5 fish-eye II | Zenit Helios 44-2 58mm ƒ/2 
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Posted 15 December 2017 - 01:40 PM

  You look young enough to see the outcome!

 

     The electric car is well and truly here, in just three years the industry went from nothing to just about every principle car manufacturer producing at least one electric car..........things are happening fast! 



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Posted 15 December 2017 - 01:44 PM

But I'm also old enough to say that "it's just three years" has been told us for twenty years...  :lol:  We're seeing some very small cars for urban use, that's right, but nothing serious for replacing general purpose cars. The most proclaimed ones, Tesla's products, are just a colossal fake - or, better, a Ponzi scheme.


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Posted 15 December 2017 - 04:01 PM

But I'm also old enough to say that "it's just three years" has been told us for twenty years...  :lol:  We're seeing some very small cars for urban use, that's right, but nothing serious for replacing general purpose cars. The most proclaimed ones, Tesla's products, are just a colossal fake - or, better, a Ponzi scheme.

 

   A colossal fake? 

    I've been following the scenario for a few years since the Maclaren release,  which at least showed the way. Tesla cars have shown it works and actually achieve what they claim.

   I see no sign of fake...difficulties , yes!

     I also see hard financial times ahead for Elon Musk, Tesla has yet to return a profit on car sales, the Powerwall company, not to mention SpaceX,  much money will be needed to be raised, but it has to be done and will be done, the future of the planet depends ultimately on pollution reduction.

   Have you really studied what is happening in the Elon Musk world?  ....Maybe it's the Italian Ferrari mentality which turns public opinion against electric vehicles where you are?..........

 

      ...  I suggest you have another look! ........Oh and keep chucking out the smoke!

  

  Sorry for the off topic guys!.......perhaps you would like to reply by PM stopping down?


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Posted 15 December 2017 - 04:29 PM

Me too, stoppingdown, I also suggest to check out other regions of the world, namely China. City of Shenzhen recently switched to buses which only run on electricity - no more diesels. The first had more batteries than space for passengers. 5 years later it's other way around.

 

We're talking about 14.000 buses:

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The fact that some European leaders are either paid or slaves of the car industry (to exaggerate a little bit, but check out the relation of Volkswagen or BMW and local parliaments) and sooo afraid of going on, doesn't count much. China is already on the move, and if German car manufacturers don't deliver because they keep on demanding tax money for their R&D, then others will overtake them.

 

Besides, the Tesla leaves at 400km/h each Italian sportster far behind  ;) until the next power plug is needed ....



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Posted 15 December 2017 - 05:00 PM

I have studied the Tesla case, and I repeat that there are arguments to say it's a fake. They can't even manufact the number of cars they promise; they are really expensive, in spite of the fact that they get tons of fiscal contributions. The space project of Musk is precisely the next step of the Ponzi scheme.

 

Just saying that we must resolve pollution doesn't mean that anything that proclaims to solve it works. Furthermore, electric cars doesn't reduce pollution. They just move pollution elsewhere, because you have to produce that electricity. That it can be produced with solar and eolic in sufficient quantities must be demonstrated. And Tesla didn't compute how many pollutants are required for the creation and disposal of batteries (which, BTW, have a life cycle of just a few years). BTW batteries are extremely pollutant when they catch fire, arguably more than gasoline or such, in fact fire brigates have been provided special instructions to deal with them (it's also much harder to extinguish their fire).

 

Buses aren't cars, as far as I know. :rolleyes:


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Sony a6300, Sony a6000, Sony NEX-6, Sony E 10-18mm F4 OSS, Sony Zeiss Vario-Tessar T* E 16-70mm F4 ZA OSS, Sony FE 70-200mm F4 G OSS, Sigma 150-600mm ƒ/5-6.3 DG OS HSM Contemporary, Samyang 12mm ƒ/2, Sigma 30mm F2.8 DN | A, Meyer Gorlitz Trioplan 100mm ƒ/2.8, Samyang 8mm ƒ/3.5 fish-eye II | Zenit Helios 44-2 58mm ƒ/2 
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Posted 15 December 2017 - 06:00 PM

Buses are cars.

 

In Switzerland they're called cars, in France, too. It's only the English who confuse them with automobiles  :D

 

Tesla is only one project. Dyson also put billions in the development of new batteries. You're right, that some part of pollution (at least these days) is just substituted with another one - and I'm a bit afraid, that the typical manager types will use electric or hybrid cars to justify new nuclear power stations, because getting solar energy out of Sahara suddenly endangers Western "supremacy".

 

But it's also clear that conventional cars don't come for free or are cleaner than electric ones. In a single petrol or diesel engine is a lot of parts and a lot of work involved, it goes on with the gearbox, exhaust, petrol tank. Electro motors are comparatively easy to manufacture. So, if you say, Tesla didn't calculate this or that, I just ask, did Ford, Peugeot, Fiat, VW or BMW do better in the past?


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Posted 15 December 2017 - 06:17 PM

I have studied the Tesla case, and I repeat that there are arguments to say it's a fake. They can't even manufact the number of cars they promise; they are really expensive, in spite of the fact that they get tons of fiscal contributions. The space project of Musk is precisely the next step of the Ponzi scheme.

 

Just saying that we must resolve pollution doesn't mean that anything that proclaims to solve it works. Furthermore, electric cars doesn't reduce pollution. They just move pollution elsewhere, because you have to produce that electricity. That it can be produced with solar and eolic in sufficient quantities must be demonstrated. And Tesla didn't compute how many pollutants are required for the creation and disposal of batteries (which, BTW, have a life cycle of just a few years). BTW batteries are extremely pollutant when they catch fire, arguably more than gasoline or such, in fact fire brigates have been provided special instructions to deal with them (it's also much harder to extinguish their fire).

 

Buses aren't cars, as far as I know. :rolleyes:

 

  I guess I'll stick to lens talk with you stopping down!

 

    For the life of me I just can't see how you come to those conclusions!

 

    I take it that your cameras are all diesel... :huh:  :o  :P  :D

 

 

http://fortune.com/2...-electric-cars/


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