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#1 Klaus

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 02:58 PM

http://www.nokishita...x9dc-tz200.html


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 03:29 PM

This might be the perfect MFT camera provided the following:

  • 20MP
  • High resolution 4:3 EVF (similar to GX8) not the crappy 16:9 one from GX7/GX80
  • Good IBIS implementation (from the G9, it looks like Pany is now on-par or close-enough with Oly)
  • Weather sealed
  • Bonus: descent auto ISO implementation ala Nikon/Pentax/Sony (not holding my breath on this one)

If the camera fulfills these few points, I might consider getting one :-)


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 04:46 PM

Seems to be a bit smaller too, 124mm x 72.1mm x 46.8mm (GX9) vs 133mm x 78mm x 63 mm (GX8).

 

Very nice!!



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Posted 12 February 2018 - 06:52 PM

In camera terms that actually is quite a lot smaller.



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Posted 12 February 2018 - 07:10 PM

Indeed, very nice. Assuming they have addressed mediocre viewfinder and added new 20 mp sensor, great upgrade.

Roughly same body as GX80. I am pleasently surprised by it’s handling. Slow viewfinder refresh rate (it’s size and sequential technology is just fine for camera this size, at least for me) is it’s major drawback, especially since the camera does well with AFC.

It has also added small little things that were missing on GX80, like AF mode switch dial. Sweet.

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 09:54 PM

Quite nice indeed. No front dial though.

 

So the GX9 is the high end successor of the GM5 ... they heard me after all. ;-)


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 09:59 PM

Quite nice indeed. No front dial though.

 

So the GX9 is the high end successor of the GM5 ... they heard me after all. ;-)

 

I hadn't noticed the lack of a front dial.

That seems to be a silly omission... which sucks quite a bit. It's like Panasonic cannot get it 100% right somehow.

Why not have a dual dial system like on the GX80? There is plenty of space for it and it's much more ergonomic than the clickable back wheel of the GM5.

Perhaps the model shown on the rumor site is not 100% accurate.


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 10:06 PM

There is front dial, same place as on GX80. Around shutter button.

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 10:23 PM

There is front dial, same place as on GX80. Around shutter button.

 

Right, I had overlooked it.

It indeed seemed to be an odd omission.

Great stuff, we just have to wait to find out about the final specs :-)


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 12:35 AM

If you like to shoot in true manual mode (and not some auto-iso version) as I like to do, make sure to check out the current Panasonic style of manual exposure level display in real life. Hey, there is was still room for creative innovation in the visual display of that simple value of deviation from what the exposure meter reads to render the measured part of the image to average grey. 

What Panasonic did: Instead of a continuous scale from minus to plus 5 or 3 or 2 exposure values, some of us may have grown accustomed to since LCDs went into the viewfinder over three decades ago [1], they have divided the scale into three parts:

-3  .  .  0

+/- OK

0  .  .  +3

The actual value of the exposure level is displayed as bars representing one third exposure value: 

0  .  .  +3

|||||

or

-3  .  .  0

     ||||||
So if I was spot metering and moved the camera around to check the exposure values in the scene, the scale and indicator bars  flipped from left to right and back again only to be interrupted by that unspeakable "+/- OK" text. I found that most disturbing, since I constantly had to reassure wether the bars were left or right from zero.
That kind of display feature came (I think) with the GX80/85, but it is also in the G9. So I have not much hope in the GX9 to return to a traditional manual mode viewfinder display. Which is sad since it's otherwise a really interesting camera.
 

If I were a judge in a user interface court I'd sentence the designers who came up with that abomination to handwriting three copies of Adam's 'The Negative' 8-p

 

[1] https://web.archive....al/CanonT90.pdf around page 50



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Posted 13 February 2018 - 01:34 AM

Some specs leaked

https://photorumors....-leaked-online/

No words about the VF and AF yet
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 09:19 AM

Looks more like a hotted up version of GX80 than an upgrade of GX8.
Seems to be a tiltable viewfinder but of the same size as GX80, but perhaps an oled vf?



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Posted 13 February 2018 - 09:21 AM

Looks more like a hotted up version of GX80 than an upgrade of GX8.
Seems to be a tiltable viewfinder but of the same size as GX80, but perhaps an oled vf?

 

I hope it's an OLED. I want deep blacks!

 

Seems very likely though - this is a GX after all.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 10:34 AM

Yep, hopefuly they have put better viewfinder in there. Although I am fine using one in GX80, it is clear state of the art today is a way further than what is in GX80. G7 OLED one is noticeably better, and it is far from newest technology available.

Not long till full specs come out, I reckon.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 11:33 AM

North American Price: Body $ 999


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 11:51 AM

Body $ 999 - that is just between GX8 GX80 



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Posted 13 February 2018 - 02:43 PM

The cat is now out of the bag: https://www.dpreview...utter-mechanism

 

They should have named it GX90 instead of GX8. From the specs, it's more of an upgrade of the GX80 instead of the GX8:

  • Same 20MP sensor as GX8
  • Same crappy EVF as GX80
  • Tiltable screen instead of fully articulated
  • No weather sealing
  • 4-stop IBIS (improvement to both GX8 and GX80)
  • ...

As it stands, it is more a GX80 with 20MP than a GX8 successor. What a bummer :-(

Why does Panasonic persist in using this crappy 16:9 EVF panel from the GX7?

We're not in 2013 anymore...


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:39 PM

Looks like a competitor to the Pen F. Most likely the same sensor....



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Posted 13 February 2018 - 08:25 PM

So they fucked it up ...  :D

 

No weather sealing, outdated viewfinder. Was that really so difficult, Panasonic?

 

https://www.panasoni...ras/dc-gx9.html

 

Stil, nice pricing. Those $999 are including the Pana 12-60mm. That's almost cheap by today's standards.


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