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Nikon mirrorless compact system - Brightcolours - 07-22-2011
[quote name='Martin R.' timestamp='1311374852' post='10211']
Why not?
A crop 2,5 system would fill the (huge) gap between 4/3" and 1/1,7" sensors.
Maybe it#s possible to make a really small system with such a sensor size and this would make a nice travel camera. In my opinion even my camera with a 10 year old 5MP 2/3" sensor design makes quite good pictures at ISO 100 and a modern design 10-12MP crop 2,5 sensor should make good ISO 100 pictures and decent ISO 400 pictures and grainy but somehow useable ISO 1600 pictures. A travel camera wouldn't need more in my opinion.
I could even imagine a 2/3" system, only the Pentax Q with that ultra tiny 1/2,3" looks not promising enough to me (I have never seen a good ISO 100 picture from a 1/2,3" sensor)
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Confusing, you use the " (inch mark) for other things than inches?
Of course one can make big DOF shots with it, like with any camera. You will not get the settings flexibility DSLRs offer, though. So, yes, for people who will be fine with compact digitals, it will of course be an ok camera.
Question is, do they need more than one lens?
And for others, who already wonder about micro four thirds as it does not offer what they are looking for, capability wise, it will not be an ok camera. They will still prefer DSLRs or even medium format cameras.
Nikon mirrorless compact system - Guest - 07-23-2011
Sony is supposedly going to release a 16-50 f/2.8 lens. I wonder about its size and weight.
Anyway, if the Nikon mirrorless system is smaller than m43, then Sony is probably gonna feel relieved their Axx and NEX systems are not gonna be threatened. <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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Nikon mirrorless compact system - PuxaVida - 07-25-2011
If this new concept will only care for more sensors per silicon wafer, then it is going to be a disappointment for Nikon users who look for an alternative to m4/3 (like me, isn't that obvious <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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Serkan
Nikon mirrorless compact system - Guest - 07-25-2011
[quote name='mst' timestamp='1311321645' post='10185']
It seems that Nikon follows the same silly small sensor road as Pentax:
http://nikonrumors.com/2011/07/22/the-picture-of-the-nikon-mirrorless-mount-is-real.aspx
-- Markus
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Thom Hogan has an interesting take on these matters, posted today
www.bythom.com
Nikon mirrorless compact system - Klaus - 07-25-2011
[quote name='AAC7man' timestamp='1311617222' post='10228']
Thom Hogan has an interesting take on these matters, posted today
www.bythom.com
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Frankly, I believe that all "nano" systems will be a success. TabletPCs as well as Netbooks are also a success despite (potentially) lower performance.
Nikon mirrorless compact system - Brightcolours - 07-25-2011
[quote name='Klaus' timestamp='1311624160' post='10229']
Frankly, I believe that all "nano" systems will be a success. TabletPCs as well as Netbooks are also a success despite (potentially) lower performance.
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Tablet PCs are the biggest failure ever. Microsoft has been trying to push then since XP. What is a success is the iPad. It does not try to be a PC, it tries to be a big smartphone or electronic media delivery system/magazine.
PCs and notebooks keep on being popular, they do not really compete with the iPad. They have different uses.
I am sure same can be said with DLSRs and small cameras with small lenses. They do not compete, they serve different target groups.
Nikon mirrorless compact system - Klaus - 07-25-2011
[quote name='Brightcolours' timestamp='1311624560' post='10230']
Tablet PCs are the biggest failure ever. Microsoft has been trying to push then since XP. What is a success is the iPad. It does not try to be a PC, it tries to be a big smartphone or electronic media delivery system/magazine.
PCs and notebooks keep on being popular, they do not really compete with the iPad. They have different uses.
I am sure same can be said with DLSRs and small cameras with small lenses. They do not compete, they serve different target groups.
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PCs are on a sharp decline. Frankly I would be surprised if they are still mainstream beyond 2015. Their time is over ... just like DSLRs. ;-))
Nikon mirrorless compact system - Guest - 07-25-2011
[quote name='Klaus' timestamp='1311625698' post='10231']
PCs are on a sharp decline. Frankly I would be surprised if they are still mainstream beyond 2015. Their time is over ... just like DSLRs. ;-))
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Are you a betting man... ?
Nikon mirrorless compact system - popo - 07-25-2011
[quote name='Klaus' timestamp='1311625698' post='10231']
PCs are on a sharp decline. Frankly I would be surprised if they are still mainstream beyond 2015. Their time is over ... just like DSLRs. ;-))
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Big claim! 3.5 years for the PC to die? Just to be clear here, by PC, do you mean, for example: Windows boxes, laptops, netbooks, and Macs? What will replace it? iPads and other equivalents? In new sales volume, that may be a possibility, since it is still a new market and PCs as a whole is a saturated mature market. Combined with the economic situations, everyone that has a PC already are less likely to replace/renew and just keep using what they have. If you count actives in the field, I think it would take much, much longer.
And at least within the scope of Nikon, I loosely agree with Thom's analysis. Nikon are aiming their small(er) sensor mirrorless at a different point than the DSLRs. They think there is room for both to coexist. Maybe other competitors like m4/3 or Sony will be bigger threats to low end DSLRs but no one has come up with a FF DSLR replacement. Yet.
Nikon mirrorless compact system - Guest - 07-26-2011
[quote name='Klaus' timestamp='1311625698' post='10231']
PCs are on a sharp decline. Frankly I would be surprised if they are still mainstream beyond 2015. Their time is over ... just like DSLRs. ;-))
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Mmm, it’s like saying that lorries are going to disappear because people have scooters. There are so many tasks where PC’s can’t be replaced – including photography (or people will be running Photoshop on a 10†tablet?). I think the simple reason why PC’s are on decline is because markets became saturated (as opposed to the period when people and companies were settling into the “digital†era) and it probably will stay like that. Now when effectively every single household and office workplace has at least one PC, it’s just natural that sales are declining until they stabilize. As for iPad – they managed to carve a new niche in the market, good for them, but it would be really far fetched to say that they’re replacing PC’s. All iPad owners I know have a PC or a laptop as well <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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