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photo printing statistics in Switzerland
#1
Ifcolor printing lab made a This is most likely spam content of what cameras were used to make prints in Switzerland.

(in German, but charts are easy to understand)

http://blog.bazonline.ch/datenblog/index...ie-schweiz

 

Canon leads, Nikon/iphone share second place. Surprising the low share of mirrorless.

#2
I'm wondering if that roughly matches camera market share? We also have to consider active owners rather than just recent units sold. While mirrorless is slowly climbing in share, you still have a massive legacy of DSLRs out there. I wonder if anyone has tried to quantify that? 

 

So of the camera makers, you would expect Canon to lead Nikon, with everyone else fighting for what's left over. Smartphones change the balance of course, and I'd imagine most of the Samsung prints will be from their phones as opposed to their cameras. Actually, we can work that out given they split the mobile share separately. From the two way split for Apple and Samsung overall Samsung is 42% that of Apple. For the mobile split Samsung is 37% of Apple. So roughly 5% of Samsung prints are from their cameras as opposed to phones.

 

We can do a similar calculation for Sony, and there I get that 76% of their overall contribution is from cameras, and 24% from phones. I'm surprised the phone proportion is as high as that but maybe more people bought their mobiles than I thought.

 

To split the overall chart slightly:

Canon 25%

Apple 19%

Nikon 19%

Sony camera 11.4%

Sony phone 3.6%

Panasonic 9%

Samsung phone 7.6%

Samsung camera 0.4%

 

Hmm... by my calculations I make mobile share 32%, not the 31% they show. This would likely be due to rounding errors since I don't have the raw numbers to play with. My assumption is that Canon, Nikon, Panasonic, Olympus and Fuji are camera only. Sony and Samsung will have share with mobile. Apple, HTC, Nokia are phone only.

 

Still, I can only work with what I have. The estimated share for cameras only (no smartphones) would be:

Canon 37%

Nikon 28%

Sony 17%

Panasonic 13%

Olympus 3%

Samsung 1%
Fuji 1%

 

If I think mFT only, I'm surprised Panasonic would be so far ahead of Olympus, unless there is something else at work here. Like compact cameras? I feel Panasonic compacts are more numerous and widely available than Olympus. In a search I found some Panasonic smartphones but I have never seen any for sale in the UK. Are they found elsewhere?

 

(Edited to correct typo in share proportions)

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#3
Ifolor is THE greatest photolab here in Switzerland, but I never had anything to do with them, and maybe others decide as well to go for another supplier. Had around a dozen projects done by a bookbinding manufacture close to Zurich and very pleased with their quality, software and service, before I tried Fuji and Apple books. With Ifolor, I found the software very limiting and Windows-focussed.


Other aspects.


They tell the brands, but not the brands and products, so we don't know how much Canon DSLRs or Nikon point & shoot would be involved. Also, a lot of photo dealers are no longer connected with Ifolor, they are doing supermarket business, while other customers use to go to a photo dealer or a couple of highly specialised and very customer oriented huge print services. If I needed low price prints, I would not hesitate to use Ifolor, but do HQ stuff I developed more confidence in my book supplier.


In other words: It says something about Ifolor customers and gives an impression, but that is not the whole story.
#4
We are not in film and print era anymore. Only a fraction of camera owners do print. I haven't printed a single photo this year (although I have taken a lot and will be printing a lot next month coz when I print 500+ pictures I have much lower rate)

So we have limited info on what's really going on.

Obviously professionals using DSLRs for weddings for instance will print a lot. Consumers will print far less.Which was not the case in the 80s and this has led to the collapse of the Kodak giant.

Times have changed however I am still wondering what's the point of getting a 50mp DSLR if you are not going to print and you'll just view them on a 1080X1920 screen at best ?
#5
We are not in film and print era anymore. Only a fraction of camera owners do print. I haven't printed a single photo this year (although I have taken a lot and will be printing a lot next month coz when I print 500+ pictures I have much lower rate)

So we have limited info on what's really going on.

Obviously professionals using DSLRs for weddings for instance will print a lot. Consumers will print far less.Which was not the case in the 80s and this has led to the collapse of the Kodak giant.

Times have changed however I am still wondering what's the point of getting a 50mp DSLR if you are not going to print and you'll just view them on a 1080X1920 screen at best ?
#6
Maybe you delete the content of one of your two identical posts, toni-a? I'm with you with the "limited info" part - even the biggest lab doesn't know all and this big lab is doing only 6.4 millions of prints. I don't know how long it takes to increase the amount of pictures worldwide by 6 millions? A Day? An hour? But they made the reminder it's their situation here in Switzerland they try to sketch.

 

We might be no longer in film era, but what Ifolor clearly states is a quantity of photo prints they never had before - which is "including film era". Of course, even the biggest lab started small and Ifolor is kind of a left over of the price battles one or two decades ago.

 

For weddings, there are even professional photogs using Ifolor prints, but I think the high value books (say, between 200...500 francs) in large format and leather cover are made by a couple of competitors. The statistic is interesting because of the facts it doesn't tell: How much printers are sold, how much HQ inkjet paper, what do the "never printer" use as camera? And how often do they buy a new one? 

#7
I can give you some kind of statistics from here Lebanon. In the past we had almost in every street a shop with possibility of printing or kiosks all of them disappeared. Online printing doesn't exist here. To print you have to go to the lab that isn't necessarily nearby, without mentioning that you have to leave the media there and come the next day to collect your prints.

When I go to the lab, most of the prints are for professionals and the prices for consumers are much higher than professionals: For instance a small 10x15 cm print costs 10-12 cents for a professional 30-50 cents for normal consumers.

Most of my friends only print 2 or three pictures they hang in their house the rest is posted online on facebook or instagram.
#8
With all the caveats of this analysis, it's at least a different point of view compared to the sales statistics. The article itself also comments on some things (in German). For example, for mobile phones, iphone beats Samsung in prints, even though based on market data there are more Samsung phones. This could indicate that iPhone users are more upmarket and spend more on prints. Lots of variables obviously. 

  


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