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Nikon Z launched
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(09-03-2018, 07:33 AM)davidmanze Wrote:
(09-02-2018, 06:41 PM)JJ_SO Wrote: The Nikon rep confirmed that. It's more an extra power pack than something with an ergonomic purpose. Shame that is, but also: better that way than "creating" another dull and wobbly battery grip. It's a first and maybe Nikon will regret to be this ignorant: first to make such a stupid device (that's my judgement until someone tells me better) and second, to communicate rather poorly about that. No one needs to buy it and hopefully it will collect dust, but I already stopped buying these grips. Not much of a brain effort in them.

      Dull wobbly battery grips....are they worse than hyper uninteresting battery boxes?   
  
    

      Things must be getting seriously "embarrassing" for Nikon now.........the first on line reviews are the most complementary....apart from the shock-wave of just one card slot.......then the niggles start to appear.........as do the questioning later reviews!

       .....AF issues....small buffer......only a few expensive lenses........the "what were they thinking"  battery box??

       Now, the latest is, Nikon stated that the release date is now delayed by maybe couple of months..........ouch!

       I've sent flowers rather than a wreath at this stage!

It is not that bad: every camera has positive and negative aspects, especially when you compare it with its competitors.

That said, I think they (the Nikon Engineers) were on a very strict deadline, because Nikon knew that the next battlefield would be FF mirrorless cameras, and they cannot afford to come in third place. Unlike Canon and Sony, which are large corporations with several different areas of interesr, Nikon relies on Photography.

The result: a rushed product that is not really ready for release which was announced early to beat Canon to the punch by a week or so. Just look at the lenses: Nikon has 3 very basic lenses that are quite large for their spexifications, while Canon has 4 lenses, including a very flexible kit lens, and 2 lenses that have to be very complex to design (28-70 f/2 and 50mm f/1.2).

In any case, seeing the final products, I am just not thrilled with any of these, since they are too big and heavy for what I do (walking around and taking pictures). 

The big question remaining is: are the consumers expected to stay with DSLR? Mirrorless cameras are actually cheaper to build than DSLR, and you could get new system cameras for less than $500, but Nikon killed their consumer mirrorless range, and Canon EOS-M range is... simply invisible on the market.
  


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Nikon Z launched - by Klaus - 08-23-2018, 05:24 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by davidmanze - 08-23-2018, 07:19 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 08-23-2018, 07:28 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by you2 - 08-23-2018, 03:29 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by MatjazO - 08-23-2018, 04:09 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Brightcolours - 08-23-2018, 04:11 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by davidmanze - 08-23-2018, 04:57 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Rover - 08-23-2018, 05:57 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by miro - 08-23-2018, 09:50 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by stoppingdown - 08-23-2018, 01:20 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Brightcolours - 08-23-2018, 02:02 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by stoppingdown - 08-23-2018, 02:37 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Brightcolours - 08-23-2018, 03:42 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by miro - 08-24-2018, 10:54 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Klaus - 08-23-2018, 03:56 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by obican - 08-23-2018, 04:00 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by you2 - 08-23-2018, 11:40 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by miro - 08-24-2018, 11:28 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 08-24-2018, 05:54 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by davidmanze - 08-24-2018, 09:21 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 08-24-2018, 10:54 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Klaus - 08-24-2018, 11:32 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by WyldRage - 08-24-2018, 12:54 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by thxbb12 - 08-24-2018, 03:48 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Rover - 08-24-2018, 05:52 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by miro - 08-25-2018, 01:15 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 08-25-2018, 02:00 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Brightcolours - 08-25-2018, 03:44 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 08-25-2018, 04:23 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by davidmanze - 08-25-2018, 04:58 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 08-25-2018, 05:55 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by WyldRage - 08-25-2018, 05:12 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by davidmanze - 08-26-2018, 09:11 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 08-26-2018, 09:20 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by you2 - 08-26-2018, 04:01 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Rover - 08-26-2018, 07:40 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Klaus - 08-26-2018, 07:56 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 08-28-2018, 12:31 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by miro - 08-29-2018, 06:52 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 08-29-2018, 08:08 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 08-29-2018, 07:45 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Brightcolours - 08-29-2018, 07:49 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 08-29-2018, 01:56 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Brightcolours - 08-29-2018, 02:11 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by miro - 08-29-2018, 03:10 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Klaus - 08-29-2018, 02:21 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 08-29-2018, 02:41 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 08-29-2018, 03:44 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 08-31-2018, 05:06 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by davidmanze - 09-02-2018, 12:55 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 09-02-2018, 06:41 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by davidmanze - 09-03-2018, 07:33 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by WyldRage - 09-03-2018, 10:38 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Brightcolours - 09-03-2018, 01:27 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 09-03-2018, 10:37 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 09-03-2018, 11:08 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by davidmanze - 09-04-2018, 07:55 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Brightcolours - 09-04-2018, 08:20 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by davidmanze - 09-04-2018, 08:38 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 09-04-2018, 08:29 AM
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RE: Nikon Z launched - by davidmanze - 09-04-2018, 09:32 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 09-04-2018, 09:49 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by davidmanze - 09-04-2018, 10:36 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 09-04-2018, 11:01 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Brightcolours - 09-04-2018, 11:27 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by davidmanze - 09-04-2018, 11:43 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 09-04-2018, 11:44 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Brightcolours - 09-04-2018, 12:14 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 09-04-2018, 01:10 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Brightcolours - 09-04-2018, 01:45 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 09-04-2018, 01:53 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Brightcolours - 09-04-2018, 02:07 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 09-04-2018, 03:16 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Brightcolours - 09-04-2018, 05:56 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 09-04-2018, 08:15 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Brightcolours - 09-04-2018, 08:20 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 09-04-2018, 09:12 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Brightcolours - 09-05-2018, 07:16 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 09-05-2018, 08:00 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Brightcolours - 09-05-2018, 09:52 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 09-05-2018, 10:18 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by davidmanze - 09-06-2018, 02:13 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 09-06-2018, 02:55 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by davidmanze - 09-06-2018, 04:40 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by toni-a - 09-06-2018, 05:34 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by davidmanze - 09-06-2018, 06:15 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by davidmanze - 09-23-2018, 08:51 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 09-24-2018, 07:37 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by davidmanze - 09-24-2018, 09:04 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 09-24-2018, 09:29 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by davidmanze - 09-24-2018, 10:50 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 09-24-2018, 11:00 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by davidmanze - 09-25-2018, 10:09 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Brightcolours - 09-24-2018, 07:13 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by toni-a - 09-25-2018, 06:42 AM
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RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 09-25-2018, 09:01 AM
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RE: Nikon Z launched - by martind86 - 10-02-2018, 07:54 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Brightcolours - 10-02-2018, 08:38 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by martind86 - 10-02-2018, 08:52 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 10-02-2018, 08:53 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Brightcolours - 10-02-2018, 10:21 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 10-02-2018, 10:43 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by davidmanze - 10-02-2018, 10:52 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 10-02-2018, 11:04 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Brightcolours - 10-02-2018, 11:07 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 10-02-2018, 11:14 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Brightcolours - 10-02-2018, 11:16 AM
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RE: Nikon Z launched - by martind86 - 10-02-2018, 02:14 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by Klaus - 10-02-2018, 02:22 PM
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RE: Nikon Z launched - by Brightcolours - 10-03-2018, 06:24 AM
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RE: Nikon Z launched - by Brightcolours - 10-03-2018, 08:04 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by davidmanze - 10-03-2018, 07:58 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 10-03-2018, 08:15 AM
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RE: Nikon Z launched - by davidmanze - 10-05-2018, 12:53 AM
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RE: Nikon Z launched - by davidmanze - 10-05-2018, 10:58 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by martind86 - 10-06-2018, 07:22 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by martind86 - 11-06-2018, 08:44 PM
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RE: Nikon Z launched - by martind86 - 11-07-2018, 10:22 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by davidmanze - 11-07-2018, 06:02 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 11-07-2018, 07:16 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 11-07-2018, 10:36 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 11-13-2018, 07:48 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by davidmanze - 11-13-2018, 09:13 AM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 11-13-2018, 09:48 AM
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RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 11-18-2018, 12:31 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by davidmanze - 11-18-2018, 12:59 PM
RE: Nikon Z launched - by JJ_SO - 11-18-2018, 01:14 PM
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