(10-15-2018, 10:52 AM)JJ_SO Wrote: BC, your weird claims about eyesight and what you consider as enough DR is very tiring. A copy of an eyesight alone is not what photgraphy can do this days.
You can consider X f-stops as sufficient for your photography. But your photography is no scale to us who want more DR for good reasons. And it's not your business to decide what's wrong or right. As well as photography is a recording of a short moment of reality, an interpretation. I don't get why you continue stubborn donkey mode, just because some photographers want to show what's in the shadows or what's in the lights.
According to you, Ansel Adams should have stayed satisfied with the limited range of grey scales and don't make a fuss with a complicate development of the zone system. If you don't like or are not able to use tone-mapping, no problem, you don't have to. For me a bigger tone scale is one option - but no obligation to use it all the time, it's just rather handy to have it. And if someone throws a camera away, because it has only 13.3 instead of 13.5 stops DR, it still is not your problem - only rather stupid.
JoJu, I post about how our eyes work, and what DR we see at any one time because of others claiming ridiculous things (like that cameras still have lower DR than our eyes, or that our eyes can see 24 stops EV at one time, nonsense like that).
I am not saying that no one can/should like lifting shadows and unnatural scifi-like HDR landscapes, or that noone can find it important to rescue totally missed exposures.
And for myself, indeed, I find the current DR fad going around on forums, a fad and not important at all.
And a lot of nonsense gets written about mr Adams, he even has written nonsense about his system himself in the past. He did like stark contrasts, and was not afraid of whites (something now seen as "blown out highlights"), nor of black (the dreaded "shadows not showing detail").
And, just to point out the obvious.... If a 7 stop tonal range is "normal", guess how much headroom to "tonal map" I have with 12 stops of DR? A lot.
That you call "my claims" about eyesight weird, is very trumpian. It is what science finds, I am just quoting what are the scientific facts, and point to simple to understand proof (6 EV DR of paper, and we perceive the "black" in prints indeed as black, and we perceive the "white" in prints indeed as white, for example).