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alban

Anyone remotely excited about this/planning on getting one?

 

Sorry if this is an old discussion- i'm new here

Well, it's a difficult offering. Small sensor, no viewfinder, high price point ...

alban

It is an expensive piece of kit. I really don't understand why it is not shipped automatically with a viewfinder.

Other also expensive cameras in that class or in a similar segment do come as well without viewfinder, Sigma DP 1...3 Merill and Merill Quattro as well don"t have one. And those cameras are costly.


I recognize Nikon has finally arrive in touchscreen-era, it's about time. Doing it with a tilt display, even better. Fps and the usage of all other Nikkors with AF support ain"t a bad thing and the AF looks also not too bad designed. I"d like to play with but I don't like to pay that ammount of money, if I don"t see how they did the menus. The ones from P7800 i.e. are pretty poor and far too complicated. A subject can grow up and found a family until I get that camera ready in some modes...
Quote:Other also expensive cameras in that class or in a similar segment do come as well without viewfinder, Sigma DP 1...3 Merill and Merill Quattro as well don"t have one. And those cameras are costly.
Neither is in "that class" or "similar".... The Sigmas are fixed lens APS-C offerings. Like the Nikon Coolpix A.

 

By the way, in the USA the V3 only is available as kit with viewfinder. Making it even more expensive, of course.

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Do people actually buy these things ?

Yada yada, BC, I probably would have thought you're ill if you hadn't posted  B)

 

You're right, those are not in this class. Unless I don't make clear "this class" to me is "pricy little gadgets with a lens in front, no point and shoot, no DSLR and tons of high tech onboard and a screen with no access to a photo because all is needed for NASA like menus". Did I forget something? Ah, yes, tiny batteries  Rolleyes Anyway, compared to a Leica it's dirt cheap. It's fantastic how those big players don't come out with something cool and affordable in that size. Who knows how long Nikon will manufacture CX-size things?

I predict they'll sell by the bucket load... in about a year's time when they have to fire sale them to make room for the V4.

 

If DLSRs stopped existing overnight, I have to say this is probably the best mirrorless camera to replace it in tracking AF performance. So in that sense I'm keeping an eye open but it makes almost no sense to change systems.

Quote:Yada yada, BC, I probably would have thought you're ill if you hadn't posted  B)

 

You're right, those are not in this class. Unless I don't make clear "this class" to me is "pricy little gadgets with a lens in front, no point and shoot, no DSLR and tons of high tech onboard and a screen with no access to a photo because all is needed for NASA like menus". Did I forget something? Ah, yes, tiny batteries  Rolleyes Anyway, compared to a Leica it's dirt cheap. It's fantastic how those big players don't come out with something cool and affordable in that size. Who knows how long Nikon will manufacture CX-size things?
So the "class" just means compact and not cheap, right? Not about whether it has changable lenses or a fixed lens, not about sensor size, not about zoom lens or single focal length prime, not about PD AF or not, and so on.

 

Which big players don't come out with something cool and affordable? The biggest players are Nikon and Canon. I agree that the Nikon 1 series and the Canon EOS M are not the coolest cameras around. Leica is a small player with a small player infrastructure.
Quote:So the "class" just means compact and not cheap, right? Not about whether it has changable lenses or a fixed lens, not about sensor size, not about zoom lens or single focal length prime, not about PD AF or not, and so on.
I think it has become kind of difficult to define "classes": Just saying "electronic viewfinders and interchangeable lenses" doesn't include those hybrid finder cameras like some Fujis, don't you think? "interchangeable lenses" alone wouldn't respect the Ricoh idea of lens + sensor unit, which is in a price range around all those interclass products. Matter of fact, I find it very difficult to mark exact limits of "classes". DSLR enty-/prosumer-/professional level is comparatively easy to define.

 

 

Quote:Which big players don't come out with something cool and affordable? The biggest players are Nikon and Canon. I agree that the Nikon 1 series and the Canon EOS M are not the coolest cameras around. Leica is a small player with a small player infrastructure.
Well - that's just my opinion and not a very profound one, as I didn't play/tried most of the available systems - to me it appears, each of the big players is looking to the others - what did they do, can we do something similar? It's like PCs, which are all sort of the same and Apple computers, which are/were also "only" PCs, but had an advanced OS, some cool ideas of how to deal with data and how we can help the user to get it done elegant and easy. I do miss something as visionary as Apple was in their best times.

 
  • Why all those buttons?
  • Cameras are beeping, but why can't I tell them what I want?
  • Why do  I have to turn the camera from landscape to portrait instead of turning only the sensor?
  • Why is there no camera able doing the focus adjustment with their own LiveView?
  • Do we still need tripod screws instead a quick mount, or maybe both?
  • Why is WLAN and wireless LiveView such a big deal these days?
  • Why is nobody doing a removable display?
  • Why is no camera manufacturer able to do focus stacking for macro right in the cam?
  • How difficult is it to focus on two different distances and the camera calculates it's DoF (I know, DoF is more or less an illusion...)?
  • How about somebody manufactured a sensor for all the old and good analogue bodies?
  • Or make the sensors interchangeable? I would like to have a Foveon in my Nikon  B) for landscape, or a high ISO type for lowlight. Of course, I can buy myself into coma with bodies, but the I expect them to walk for themselves and not being carried by my poor back...  :wacko:
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