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Apparently the D800 will have problems with the Nikon PC-E lenses. Bit fragmented and crude/sparse information, but This I get from it:

The housing of the D800 makes that you can not use the PC-E as designed. Also, for some reason it will not meter when tilted or shifted... And not focus??? That seems nonsense to me.



All in all, pretty odd! Designing a camera perfectly suited for architectural and landscape photography (full frame high resolution sensor), and then not being able to use it with your own tilt shift line of lenses.

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Well if the below images of the front sides are comparable, it seems that the D800 has the required space there for the knobs / housing of PC-E 24mm. At least it doesn't look like the D800's flash unit height is less than the D700 (maybe D700 has the same problem also <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' />...). But all in all, the strange thing is that the answer is an approved answer, and includes metering/AF issues, which also make no sense to me either... I hope there's no design flaw with that repect, otherwise we can expect to see a brand new D800"P" in the near future <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' />...



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http://answers.nikonusa.com/answers/7022...ion=648244



Apparently the D800 will have problems with the Nikon PC-E lenses. Bit fragmented and crude/sparse information, but This I get from it:

The housing of the D800 makes that you can not use the PC-E as designed. Also, for some reason it will not meter when tilted or shifted... And not focus??? That seems nonsense to me.



All in all, pretty odd! Designing a camera perfectly suited for architectural and landscape photography (full frame high resolution sensor), and then not being able to use it with your own tilt shift line of lenses.

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From Nikon Rumours:



[indent]Unfortunately, the built-in flash in cameras other than D3/D4 series will cause the 24mm PC-E lens movements to be slightly limited and pose a risk of damaging the underneath of the flash. It is mentioned in the lens user’s manual:



“When the lens is mounted to a camera other than the D3, shift, tilt and/or revolve the lens with care. Failure to do so, may result in the lens scratching the camera body.”

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The Canon TS-E don't meter correctly (through OVF) when shifted. Can't remember if that affects tilt too. I'm guessing the "not focusing" isn't that you can't usefully adjust focus, but something may interfere with MF assist indicator, but that's just a guess. So I don't see any real issue there apart from possible physical conflict of the lens with certain bodies.
I guess then it is just a mostly wrong answer from the Nikon staff member.
It seems they modified the answer (and I didn't see the initial one). In any case: with a tilt/shift lens, metering and focus confirmation are a good deal off once the lens is tilted and/or shifted. That's both the case for TS-E and PC-E lenses and simply a physical issue (the light rays no longer hit the sensors vertically). In practice, you meter first, lock the exposure and then adjust the lens movements. Focus assist is mostly useless with TS-lenses anyway, since you're usually interested in the whole plane of focus and not just a single spot.



The physical limitations regarding lens movements exist since the PC-E lenses were initially announced. As pointed out by NR, any camera below the D3 is affected by this. The smaller cameras even more than the larger ones, naturally, since their flash housings are closer to the lens mount.



-- Markus

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The situation is clarified here:



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