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Hi Klaus,



Am wondering how you are getting on with the Lumix. Any updates or has the Sony eaten all your time?



Thanks

Joachim

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Hi Klaus,



Am wondering how you are getting on with the Lumix. Any updates or has the Sony eaten all your time?



Thanks

Joachim

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Sebbi will do some further testing but I think we'll use it as a new base camera in the MFT section.

The GF-1 may not be really outdated here but it is pretty old by now.



Personally I like the GX1 quite a bit although the missing viewfinder is a minus in my book though.

The control dial could be a little smoother IMHO. The AF is super fast in most scenes (better than on the NEX 7).

Nice BQ.

[quote name='Klaus' timestamp='1329946065' post='16073']

Sebbi will do some further testing but I think we'll use it as a new base camera in the MFT section.

The GF-1 may not be really outdated here but it is pretty old by now.



Personally I like the GX1 quite a bit although the missing viewfinder is a minus in my book though.

The control dial could be a little smoother IMHO. The AF is super fast in most scenes (better than on the NEX 7).

Nice BQ.

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Klaus,



Thanks for the update, much appreciated. I take you didn't get the aux-finder for it. After about 2.5 years with an E-P1, I sort of agree. There are many situations I would have liked at least an aux-option.



I look forward to reading an update from Sebbi once he is ready to share something.



Best wishes

J.

Can you also say something about the x lens (14-42)? Does it have the blur issue at the long end (@ 1/160)?



Thanks.

I'll likely get a GX-1 when the price goes down a bit.



On Thursday I got a very good deal on a GF-2 and a few lenses, couldn't resist the offer, and got them all on Friday.

It'll likely replace my Canon G10, IOW, this is my new "can't take the 5D II and/or 1D Mk III along" camera <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />.



Considering the quality of lenses, the size and heft, and plain build quality, this suited me better than a Nex.



Kind regards, Wim

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Can you also say something about the x lens (14-42)? Does it have the blur issue at the long end (@ 1/160)?



Thanks.

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It will be the first review on the GX-1. I'm afraid that it'll take a while - manual focusing isn't exactly trivial with this lens.

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It will be the first review on the GX-1. I'm afraid that it'll take a while - manual focusing isn't exactly trivial with this lens.

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Hmm. Did you consider AF? If light levels are decent, such that sensor noise is low, contrast AF is pretty precise. Your targets are very AF-friendly.



On that note, do you experience "slag" with normal mFT lenses? My 14-42 first incarnation does that quite badly. In MF I have to make sure not to hunt back-and-forth. If I go over the optimal point I have to de-focus considerably and try again. The last move has to be all in one direction. My other lenses seem better though I mostly use AF these days, even on a E-P1 with largish AF fields.

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I'll likely get a GX-1 when the price goes down a bit.



On Thursday I got a very good deal on a GF-2 and a few lenses, couldn't resist the offer, and got them all on Friday.

It'll likely replace my Canon G10, IOW, this is my new "can't take the 5D II and/or 1D Mk III along" camera <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />.



Considering the quality of lenses, the size and heft, and plain build quality, this suited me better than a Nex.



Kind regards, Wim

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Welcome to the PZ mFT-gang. We are getting more <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />. I hope you like your camera.



Compared to an E-P3 the GX1 is quite a bit cheaper. Problem is that it will not work so well with the tiny m.Zuiko 40-150 due to no IBS. I also completely detest Panasonics battery policy. To many different types and encoded.



On the other hand there is the infamous rattle-snake issue with fast Panasonic glas on Oly-bodies. Things are not easy.



Considering your lens comments, which ones did you get?



J.

Hi Joachim,

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Welcome to the PZ mFT-gang. We are getting more <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />. I hope you like your camera. [/quote]

Thank you kindly! And so far, yes, I like it - still getting used to the interface, but certainly 10X better than the Nex I tried, and no bling-bling look lenses either, which I detest <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />...

Quote:Compared to an E-P3 the GX1 is quite a bit cheaper. Problem is that it will not work so well with the tiny m.Zuiko 40-150 due to no IBS. I also completely detest Panasonics battery policy. To many different types and encoded.

I realised that too, and immediately got myself a spare battery, just in case. I know they are very hard to come by as well.

Quote:On the other hand there is the infamous rattle-snake issue with fast Panasonic glas on Oly-bodies. Things are not easy.



Considering your lens comments, which ones did you get?



J.

I got extremely good deals on the Pannie 7-14 F/4, the Leica 45 F/2.8 macro, and either (or both) of the Panny 14-140 OIS or the Olympus 14-150. I tried the Olympus first, because it is smaller, but realized rather quickly I needed the OIS, so went for the 14-140 - this as a general travel lens.



As I really like primes, in general, I also got a 20 F/1.7, short standard lens, which is a focal length I really like a lot, and this lens is mounted on the camera by default. I was really lucky with both the 7-14 and 45 macro, as both are very good lenses, and within the areas I use a camera a lot, UWA and macro. I missed that with the G10, and macro with the G10 also only was soso. I also found that my general A5-sized carry bag in which I always had my Canon G10 with me, I could easily fit the 7-14 and the GF-2 with 20 F/1.7, which is exactly what I use most <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />.



So, I am now off to find a buyer for my G10 <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />.

Plans for the future are possibly a longer zoom, and 1 or 2 specialist primes <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />. But I better get properly used to this camera first.



I don't see this as a replacement for the 5D II, however. That I will keep and continue shooting with, for when I can carry it and a few lenses. I see this camera really as a replacement for the G10, with better IQ, better lens(es), better (overall) reach, etc., even if a little heavier.



So far, I am quite happy with it.



Kind regards, Wim

Why is it difficult to focus? I mean is it an issue with the GX-1 and the display/magnify feature not being useful or the lens lacking the ability to precisely adjust focusing (I've not seen either the gx-1 or the lens so it might be obvious to someone who has sampled them - i've been leaning towards the om-d, nex or pro-1 but i'd like to know more about the gx-1)



[quote name='Klaus' timestamp='1330208152' post='16167']

It will be the first review on the GX-1. I'm afraid that it'll take a while - manual focusing isn't exactly trivial with this lens.

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