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Reinier

Hello fellow Photozoners,



Just came across http://www.zoerk.com/pages/p_pshift.htm . It is a company which makes shift adapters. I wondered has anyone ever used a (tilt)/shift adapter and how was the overall quality?



Would it be wise to give it a go? I don't know what the price are. I would love to have a wide angle lens with a shift option to correct crooked buildings. Now I try to correct the distortion in Lightroom, but that's not ideal.



Hope to hear from you.





Best wishes,



Reinier



P.S. today I found also a Canon TS F2,8 35mm SSC. Should that be a better option?
This is the Zörk price list:



http://zoerk.de/pdf/preise.pdf



Another option would be the Mirex adapter, but it's not really significantly cheaper:



http://www.mirex-adapter.de/index.htm



http://www.mirex-adapter.de/preisliste.htm



You'd also need a quite good (and wide) MF lens. Often a Pentax 35mm lens is recommended (I know someone who owns that combo, I can try to find out which Pentax lens exactly if you're interested).



Zörk products generally have a reputation of being of very high quality.





I'm not sure if the old SSC lens can be used on EF mount cameras.



If you're really interested to get into TS, a used TS-E 24 (not TS-E 24 II) is probably the way to go. Or one of the cheap russian TS-lenses, but the last time I looked really wide lenses were not available (Arsat/Arax 35mm is probably the widest you can get).



Another one: a used Schneider PC-Angulon 28mm f/2.8 lens (shift only). Also available as Leica lens. The question is, if the Schneider can be purchased for significantly less than a used TS-E 24.



Nikon also offered a shift only 28mm lens that maybe can be adapted to EF mount.



-- Markus
The TS 35mm f2.8 is an FD era lens, so it will not mount on EF. FD has a shorter lens to film distance too, so you can not solve it with a simple adapter.



If you are handy and have serious metal work skills/possibilities, you can convert the lens to EF mount though. It still is not very wide on FF, that 35mm.

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/985819

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/arch...46127.html



I think Marcus' suggestions of the TS-E 24mm (mark I) second hand, or the old Nikon PC 28mm with Nikon F-mount to Canon EF-mount adapter are the simplest options, as you will want a wide lens and MF lenses on 135 format... just are not wide?

Reinier

Thanks for your advice Markus and Brightcolours,



The tilt/shift adapter are quite expensive, so together with the cost of a MF lens it will not be cheaper than the TS-E 24mm I, so I think I will take your advice and will look for this lens or the Nikon PC 28mm.



By the way the person who sells the Canon TS 35mm f2.8, also sells an adapter for FD - EOS adapter, so it can be used on DSLR's: http://link.marktplaats.nl/478776970



Doesn't this work at all or just not properly or is it possible that there is an adapter anyway?



Best wishes,



Reinier











[quote name='Brightcolours' timestamp='1314872192' post='11226']

The TS 35mm f2.8 is an FD era lens, so it will not mount on EF. FD has a shorter lens to film distance too, so you can not solve it with a simple adapter.



If you are handy and have serious metal work skills/possibilities, you can convert the lens to EF mount though. It still is not very wide on FF, that 35mm.

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/985819

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/arch...46127.html



I think Marcus' suggestions of the TS-E 24mm (mark I) second hand, or the old Nikon PC 28mm with Nikon F-mount to Canon EF-mount adapter are the simplest options, as you will want a wide lens and MF lenses on 135 format... just are not wide?

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[quote name='Reinier' timestamp='1314949021' post='11243']

Thanks for your advice Markus and Brightcolours,



The tilt/shift adapter are quite expensive, so together with the cost of a MF lens it will not be cheaper than the TS-E 24mm I, so I think I will take your advice and will look for this lens or the Nikon PC 28mm.



By the way the person who sells the Canon TS 35mm f2.8, also sells an adapter for FD - EOS adapter, so it can be used on DSLR's: http://link.marktplaats.nl/478776970



Doesn't this work at all or just not properly or is it possible that there is an adapter anyway?



Best wishes,



Reinier

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Well, the FD lenses have a shorter distance to the film/sensor than EF. If you put an adapter in between without optics, you lose infinity focus quite considerably, leaving a 35mm TS lens quite useless. Canon offered an adapter with optics for a while during the EF transition, which had relatively high quality optics. This adapter is rare/hard to find, and if you do find it it is expensive (€1000 or more). It was meant for tele lenses, due to the construction, so not a 35mm TS.



You can find adapters with optics, but most/all give quite mediocre results (because of poor optics). Can't comment in detail on the performance of the adapter the lens comes with.



Another negative point about adapters with optics to restore infinity focus: They act like 1.26x tele converters (canon one) or more

You can even expect 1.4-1.5x for some adapters with optics. So, the 35mm becomes 50mm TS, not wide at all.



The 35mm TS still can be a very interesting lens, of course, but rather with an adapter without optics (losing infinity and gaining close up ability) for close up photos.



To use it for what it was designed for, it does need conversion.

Guest

Well, here you go if you want an adaptor for 125$: http://www.araxphoto.com/



The 35mm TS lens for 670$ sounds reasonable too.

Yakim

If money is an issue, the 24/3.5 Mk I is your best option for wide TS. If not, the 17/4 or the 24/3.5 II are the best there are.



If 35mm is wide enough for you than Mirex + Mamiya M645 lenses are your best bet WRT value-for money.



http://photo.net/canon-eos-digital-camera-forum/00WaiF



Have fun whatever you choose. TS is a lot of fun.

Yakim

Here's a good deal if you want to go the Mirex route.



http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1043862/



Clarification: I don't know him and he is a new FM'er without any feedback.