DPR today announces the arrival of the new Ricoh GXR M-mount alternative. It looks interesting and probably pretty useful to me. The ability to use older M-mount lenses adds a lot of lens alternatives and I think could make for an interesting small camery system wih interchangeable lenses, albeit without an optical or electonic visor system. What do you all think of this innovative camera system?
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Hi Wolf,
Looks interesting, be it a bit primitive.
Now for a FF module... <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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Kind regards, Wim
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Hi Wolf,
Looks interesting, be it a bit primitive.
Now for a FF module... <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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Kind regards, Wim
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This is basically an identical solution like an adapter on a Sony NEX. The lens profiling is sort of cute but not really a killer.
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This is basically an identical solution like an adapter on a Sony NEX. The lens profiling is sort of cute but not really a killer.
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And adapters for a Sony NEX (or possibly Samsung NX?) are not that expensive either.
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And adapters for a Sony NEX (or possibly Samsung NX?) are not that expensive either.
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I was also about to add Samsung NX besides NEX but NX cannot take Leica M adapters due to the bigger lens registry distance.
A smart move by Samsung for avoiding edge performance problems but unfortunate for adapters.
[quote name='Klaus' timestamp='1312537706' post='10403']
This is basically an identical solution like an adapter on a Sony NEX. The lens profiling is sort of cute but not really a killer.[/quote]
It's interesting that you ignore the lack of AA filter and redesigned micro-lenses (probably offset micro-lenses). The user interface is another area where Sony and Ricoh chose completely different paths, aimed at very different types of users. Have you had a chance to handle a recent Ricoh GR/GXR/GX-series camera? And I'm not talking about playing with one for a few minutes in a showroom.
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DPR today announces the arrival of the new Ricoh GXR M-mount alternative. It looks interesting and probably pretty useful to me. The ability to use older M-mount lenses adds a lot of lens alternatives and I think could make for an interesting small camery system wih interchangeable lenses, albeit without an optical or electonic visor system. What do you all think of this innovative camera system?
[url="http://www.dpreview.com/previews/ricohgxrmountA12/"]http://www.dpreview.com/previews/ricohgxrmountA12/[/url]
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Add the Pentax M-mount version of the 43mm f/1.9 Ltd and you have a full-on in the family system.
[quote name='Klaus' timestamp='1312543835' post='10406']
I was also about to add Samsung NX besides NEX but NX cannot take Leica M adapters due to the bigger lens registry distance.
A smart move by Samsung for avoiding edge performance problems but unfortunate for adapters.
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Disagree somewhat. There is nothing that prevents Sony (or Leica) from making future lenses for NEX (or M) with longer effective spacing from the lens to the sensor (replicating). Short registry gives more flexibility to make lens-design trade-offs between super-small pancakes or larger sizes with better corner performance.
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It's interesting that you ignore the lack of AA filter and redesigned micro-lenses (probably offset micro-lenses). The user interface is another area where Sony and Ricoh chose completely different paths, aimed at very different types of users. Have you had a chance to handle a recent Ricoh GR/GXR/GX-series camera? And I'm not talking about playing with one for a few minutes in a showroom.
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For exactly those reasons I find it interesting and different. I have never even seen a Ricoh GXR, but I find the approach different and to me more attractive than the Sony/Olympus solutions, although I find the lack of a visor a dealbraker with all these new camera systems. Panasonic and Samsung with their NX10 have in my opinion taken the right approach and will gain an ever larger market share until the others see the light.
[quote name='boren' timestamp='1312559495' post='10408']
It's interesting that you ignore the lack of AA filter and redesigned micro-lenses (probably offset micro-lenses). The user interface is another area where Sony and Ricoh chose completely different paths, aimed at very different types of users. Have you had a chance to handle a recent Ricoh GR/GXR/GX-series camera? And I'm not talking about playing with one for a few minutes in a showroom.
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The problem is ... to find it anywhere.
I've no issue with it per se. The concept is viable to some degree. The pricing is an issue though.
They offer this module for the price of a complete mirrorless camera.
The GXR does cost more than the NEX, but with the aforementioned differences it's simply a better M-mount camera. I doubt that for the typical M-mount user a few hundred dollars is a deal breaker.