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What??? No flash in a semi-pro model?

They are killing one of the best selling points the Minolta system ever had <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />.

Do they? How many semi-Pro's do really care about built-in flash?



-- Markus

[quote name='olegk' timestamp='1311180822' post='10162']

What??? No flash in a semi-pro model?

They are killing one of the best selling points the Minolta system ever had <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />.

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Well, I don't need a build-in flash unit. Even the primitive F20AM is far better than any build-in one at just 90g.

[quote name='mst' timestamp='1311182753' post='10163']

Do they? How many semi-Pro's do really care about built-in flash?



-- Markus

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I think that isn't the right question exactly. It probably should be "how many people likely to buy an A77 class camera care about built-in flash?"



Personally I rarely carry an external flash unless I know I will need it. Pop-up flash can come in handy at times.



Also, I think the complaint wasn't necessarily about using the body flash as a flash, but maybe as a flash controller. It can be nice not to have another gadget around to control external flashes.

Yes, I mean built-in flash as a controller. The usual Minolta flash control system is too convenient to loose.

You just switch all the units on, register them properly, and everything works together.

Chineese RF triggers or IR-based systems take the hell out of you before you get to this point.

So, omitting the built-in flash is a very bad idea.

Sorry, I wasn't aware that the Sony flash can act as controller. That's of course a different story.



-- Markus

That sounds like a studio setup. Only if Sony actually thought about (rethought) things, the A77 will be usable in such a studio setup... the A55v with its forced live view which simulates the exposure settings (time and aperture) gives studio photographers headaches!



At least, that is what I have been reading on forums.

[quote name='mst' timestamp='1311186470' post='10167']

Sorry, I wasn't aware that the Sony flash can act as controller. That's of course a different story.[/quote]



Almost all A-mount SLRs released in the last 20 years support wirelss TTL flash control using the built in flash. Minolta did it years before anyone else.



Edit: According to other [url="http://cdn.mos.photoradar.com/files/imagecache/con_full_user_photo/articles/news/june2011/Sony%20A77%20Sony%20A65%20release.jpg"]leaked pictures[/url] (with view of the pentaprism), the A77 does have a built-in flash.

[quote name='boren' timestamp='1311194058' post='10170']

Almost all A-mount SLRs released in the last 20 years support wirelss TTL flash control using the built in flash. Minolta did it years before anyone else.



Edit: According to other leaked pictures (with view of the pentaprism), the A77 does have a built-in flash.

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According to the leaked pictures, the A77 has no pentaprism. <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />