04-25-2011, 10:14 PM
04-26-2011, 08:39 AM
[quote name='mst' timestamp='1303769659' post='7900']
Not really a lens to rave about.
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-- Markus
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It's quite a mystery why Nikon is keeping this lens for so long in their lineup. It had never a good reputation.
Not really a lens to rave about.
[url="http://www.opticallimits.com/nikon_ff/552-nikkorafd80400vrff"]http://www.photozone...korafd80400vrff[/url]
-- Markus
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It's quite a mystery why Nikon is keeping this lens for so long in their lineup. It had never a good reputation.
04-26-2011, 08:46 AM
[quote name='Klaus' timestamp='1303807184' post='7904']
It's quite a mystery why Nikon is keeping this lens for so long in their lineup. It had never a good reputation.
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I always thought it was because it makes professionals more easily splurge their dough on the 200-400mm f4, because it so clearly is superior in the long end to the 80-400 VR.
It's quite a mystery why Nikon is keeping this lens for so long in their lineup. It had never a good reputation.
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I always thought it was because it makes professionals more easily splurge their dough on the 200-400mm f4, because it so clearly is superior in the long end to the 80-400 VR.
04-26-2011, 09:39 AM
[quote name='Brightcolours' timestamp='1303807617' post='7905']
I always thought it was because it makes professionals more easily splurge their dough on the 200-400mm f4, because it so clearly is superior in the long end to the 80-400 VR.
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If so, it would be more effective to simply discontinue the 80-400 VR. In addition, not anyone can shell out the big bucks required to purchase the 200-400 VR. And of those who can, probably only a minority would be willing to carry such a heavy lens.
-- Markus
I always thought it was because it makes professionals more easily splurge their dough on the 200-400mm f4, because it so clearly is superior in the long end to the 80-400 VR.
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If so, it would be more effective to simply discontinue the 80-400 VR. In addition, not anyone can shell out the big bucks required to purchase the 200-400 VR. And of those who can, probably only a minority would be willing to carry such a heavy lens.
-- Markus
Martin_MM
04-26-2011, 09:46 AM
I used to have this lens for some time... Honestly, it didn´t look that bad on 6mpx Nikon D70 then but I can imagine it sucks on full frame. Clearly one of the worst FX options and one of the worst tele options in the Nikon line today. I wonder how anyone can buy this today - should have been replaced long time ago.
04-26-2011, 10:14 AM
[quote name='mst' timestamp='1303810778' post='7907']
If so, it would be more effective to simply discontinue the 80-400 VR. In addition, not anyone can shell out the big bucks required to purchase the 200-400 VR. And of those who can, probably only a minority would be willing to carry such a heavy lens.
-- Markus
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That is the point. The ones who can sell out for the 200-400mm f4 VR will do so, as the 80-400mm VR is inferior. And the ones who can't afford the weight and/or cost of the 200-400mm f4 VR get the 80-400mm VR and tell themselves what a great lens it is (yes, this 80-400mm gets called great very often in forums).
But, I am sure it will be replaced in the not too distant future.
If so, it would be more effective to simply discontinue the 80-400 VR. In addition, not anyone can shell out the big bucks required to purchase the 200-400 VR. And of those who can, probably only a minority would be willing to carry such a heavy lens.
-- Markus
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That is the point. The ones who can sell out for the 200-400mm f4 VR will do so, as the 80-400mm VR is inferior. And the ones who can't afford the weight and/or cost of the 200-400mm f4 VR get the 80-400mm VR and tell themselves what a great lens it is (yes, this 80-400mm gets called great very often in forums).
But, I am sure it will be replaced in the not too distant future.
Guest
04-26-2011, 08:23 PM
[quote name='Brightcolours' timestamp='1303812845' post='7910']
That is the point. The ones who can sell out for the 200-400mm f4 VR will do so, as the 80-400mm VR is inferior. And the ones who can't afford the weight and/or cost of the 200-400mm f4 VR get the 80-400mm VR and tell themselves what a great lens it is (yes, this 80-400mm gets called great very often in forums).
But, I am sure it will be replaced in the not too distant future.
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Nikon have filed a number of patents for similar focal range lenses recently.
The latest was for a 100-400 F/4.5-5.6 ED G VR design.
A replacement seems likely to be in the (slow) Nikon pipeline, therefore. Various rumours say it will be soon.
That is the point. The ones who can sell out for the 200-400mm f4 VR will do so, as the 80-400mm VR is inferior. And the ones who can't afford the weight and/or cost of the 200-400mm f4 VR get the 80-400mm VR and tell themselves what a great lens it is (yes, this 80-400mm gets called great very often in forums).
But, I am sure it will be replaced in the not too distant future.
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Nikon have filed a number of patents for similar focal range lenses recently.
The latest was for a 100-400 F/4.5-5.6 ED G VR design.
A replacement seems likely to be in the (slow) Nikon pipeline, therefore. Various rumours say it will be soon.
Guest
04-26-2011, 11:03 PM
I remember trying out the 80-400 in a photo store once, played with it for less than 5 minutes. I didn't like it at all! Heck, I love the 16-35 and 24-120 f/4 lenses, so I really don't have the highest standards. The 80-400 should needs to be discontinued, it's embarrassing.
Yakim
04-27-2011, 12:33 PM
Canon Rulz! <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />
Seriously though, I wouldn't be surprised to see a newer version soon.
Seriously though, I wouldn't be surprised to see a newer version soon.
Guest
04-28-2011, 04:14 PM
Several other reviews would seem to disagree with your findings. Possibly you had a bad sample. My 80-400 is very sharp at 400mm. All the best!