09-02-2019, 12:03 PM
09-03-2019, 02:09 PM
Why "wrongly"? Is that because the aperture ring on a lens does not feel very "contemporary"?
09-03-2019, 02:36 PM
"Contemporary" has a comsumerish flavour to it. However, this build quality is top-notch and the IQ is very good (unsurprisingly).
09-03-2019, 06:15 PM
Well, they have only 3 lines AFAIK, and this is neither a "Sport" lens (long telephoto lenses), nor an "art" lens (large aperture lenses). So, that pretty much leaves it in the Contemporary line (anything else), which makes sense for a f2.8 prime lens.
09-03-2019, 08:38 PM
(09-03-2019, 06:15 PM)Spinifex Wrote: [ -> ]Well, they have only 3 lines AFAIK, and this is neither a "Sport" lens (long telephoto lenses), nor an "art" lens (large aperture lenses). So, that pretty much leaves it in the Contemporary line (anything else), which makes sense for a f2.8 prime lens.
Exactly. And I would say it'd be rather hard to find a bad lens amongst the contemporary line - maybe you need to step back from the idea, slow aperture and affordable price = low quality, Klaus?
The Sports line btw - this 70-200/2.8 is a real brick, but it focuses as if it would ask "low light? what low light?" - is just for more weather sealing plus even more solid build with more metal involved, might take some rough treatment.
As nice as the sample shots are to look at - none of them is a real challenge for a lens, isn't it?
09-03-2019, 11:03 PM
So f/2.8 in a zoom lenw is good enough for ART but not in a prime lens ;-)
The speed argument isn't even applicable - e.g. the 16mm/30mm/56mm f/1.4 are clearly fast but no ART lenses either.
Conversely, the 19mm/30mm F2.8 ARE ART lenses.
@JJ - where did I say that "Contemporary" = low quality?
In conclusion - the 45mm has the wrong category.
The speed argument isn't even applicable - e.g. the 16mm/30mm/56mm f/1.4 are clearly fast but no ART lenses either.
Conversely, the 19mm/30mm F2.8 ARE ART lenses.
@JJ - where did I say that "Contemporary" = low quality?
In conclusion - the 45mm has the wrong category.
09-04-2019, 07:56 AM
If "consumerish flavor" doens't mean "shitty and cheap" in nicer wording, I really don't know...
Why don't you tell Sigma about their mistakes? Plural, because the fast 16, 30, 56 with f/1.4 are also contemporary (so the new lens is not suffering "bad", "comsumerish" stink), the slow 24-105/4 is in the Art Category and spreads it's consumerism there, contaminating all other bricks as well as the slow 12-24/4.
And the 60-600 became a member of Sports line. Sports just means "you better work out like Jared "the muscle" Polin to handhold these canons".
I now could say - but I don't - regarding the sample pictures, "Art" would be hard to see in it But as I said, I don't say it. I just write about the eventuality.
How about the explanation "Sigma needs to fill up some low populated categories"?
Why don't you tell Sigma about their mistakes? Plural, because the fast 16, 30, 56 with f/1.4 are also contemporary (so the new lens is not suffering "bad", "comsumerish" stink), the slow 24-105/4 is in the Art Category and spreads it's consumerism there, contaminating all other bricks as well as the slow 12-24/4.
And the 60-600 became a member of Sports line. Sports just means "you better work out like Jared "the muscle" Polin to handhold these canons".
I now could say - but I don't - regarding the sample pictures, "Art" would be hard to see in it But as I said, I don't say it. I just write about the eventuality.
How about the explanation "Sigma needs to fill up some low populated categories"?
09-04-2019, 08:07 AM
No time for art and if I did I wouldn't post it in a review for free. ;-)
09-04-2019, 08:09 AM
(09-04-2019, 08:07 AM)Klaus Wrote: [ -> ]No time for art and if I did I wouldn't post it in a review for free. ;-)
Best possible answer to my sarcastic post
12-07-2019, 04:39 AM
Designed specifically for full-frame mirror less, the Sigma 45mm f/2.8 DG DN Contemporary lens is an especially compact prime with impressive performance tellthebell.