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Leica 12-60mm f/2.8-4 OIS is on its way ... - Guest - 05-14-2017 I get that, Wim, that there are many factors that contribute to pricing of an item. I won't dispute that. BTW, the cheapo Lumix is also weather sealed ("Durable splash and dustproof-sealed body is ideally suited for all-weather travel, when combined with splash and dustproof LUMIX G Mirrorless camera models"). But, having said that, in the end I am looking at my images and then that's all that counts and it doesn't really matter how many switches etc I had on the lens that I used. If I have to "study" the images to differentiate (...would you pass a blinded test... and bet the farm that you can correctly identify which lens shot what?) ever so subtle differences in IQ between the $1k PanaLeica and the $cheap kit Lumix, then I (personally speaking - you seem to be OK) would be disappointed in the PL. Regardless, I am really interested in hearing Klaus' findings so let's see if the price difference is indeed justifiable (in my eyes). I do expect to see a clear winner in IQ with the PL outside the additional factors that drive up price of a product. if that's the case, it would be very attractive for sure. Quote:Actually, the price difference is less than with lenses which are similar from other manufacturers (they're often a factor 2.5 to 3 going from consumer grade to pro lenses). Essentially the 12-60 PL is a professional grade lens, 2/3 to a full stop faster, has switches for IS and MF, unlike the consumer version, and is weatherproofed. Leica 12-60mm f/2.8-4 OIS is on its way ... - eggybread - 05-15-2017 Very keen to see how this stacks up to the Oly 12-100 that you've just reviewed. If the quality is as good as the Oly's 12-60 range then it's a shoo-in. I have been wanting to replace my Oly 14-150mm mk2 for a while now, but need to know that the loss of range is made up for in noticeably IQ. Not hugely worried about the 'slow' 2.8-4.0 aperture, I'll cover low light with a 17mm f1.8. Unless the 17mm f1.2 turns out to be great... Leica 12-60mm f/2.8-4 OIS is on its way ... - Klaus - 05-16-2017 I will start testing tomorrow ... Leica 12-60mm f/2.8-4 OIS is on its way ... - thxbb12 - 05-16-2017 Quote:I will start testing tomorrow ... Nice, looking forward to seeing the results :-) Leica 12-60mm f/2.8-4 OIS is on its way ... - Rover - 05-16-2017 Quote:Even worse. There's the phenomenon that DSLRs are getting bigger & heavier the higher you climb up a mountain!Wow, steel indeed. Just climbing 150 meters to 3718m - the top of the Teide peak on Tenerife - with all my gear at the time (Canon 1D Mark II N camera, 14/2.8, 16-35/2.8 and 70-200/2.8 lenses) was not an experience I'd like to repeat, and you went to 5000. I wonder what kind of gear I would carry next time I try for the mountains (3600 metres up in Karakorum was, in contrast, much easier, despite the fact that I was also carrying a beater 20D as the second body). Maybe I should really stop sinking money into the DSLR system after all... nobody's getting younger anyway. Leica 12-60mm f/2.8-4 OIS is on its way ... - admin - 05-17-2017 6.15% distortions at 12mm ... Leica 12-60mm f/2.8-4 OIS is on its way ... - Rover - 05-18-2017 Well, think of this as a fisheye-wannabe (after all, a lens with 10% of barrel is already considered fisheye). Leica 12-60mm f/2.8-4 OIS is on its way ... - thxbb12 - 05-18-2017 Quote:6.15% distortions at 12mm ... Ugh... quite disappointing. I understand manufacturers are taking advantage of in-camera processing, but really > 6%? That's borderline absurd (as with some other "pro" lenses). This type of distortion is unfortunately not a trend anymore (in the MFT world), but a reality: none of the manufacturers do even try to optically correct for distortion. That's really a shame. Sure, we get great center performance but the borders miserably trail behind. Over are the days of homogeneous performance across the frame. Leica 12-60mm f/2.8-4 OIS is on its way ... - toni-a - 05-18-2017 Well with evolution of sensors I expect this to be unfortunately the future trend, since we have too many megapixels, why not lose some to correct distortion we will have enough anyway. Leica 12-60mm f/2.8-4 OIS is on its way ... - Guest - 05-18-2017 One of interviews with Zeiss said that correcting distortion in post helps to design much smaller lenses. I think that was one of the main reasons why m3/4 mirrorless lenses in normal and wide range are so much smaller than APS-C mirrorless lenses where only few of them have similar distortion figures |