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Forums > Back > Next PZ lens test report: Nikkor AF 18-35mm f/3.5-4.5D ED
#21
[quote name='AAC7man' timestamp='1313353306' post='10747']

Hmmmmmmmm



Even if you called it DX it's too expensive



Perhaps it's a clever marketing move by Nikon by keeping it in the catalogue to highlight some of the bargains like 18-55mm VR DX ? ! Probably not.



Needs a good replacement - and at reasonable cost

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Perhas Nikon considered the 16-35 F4 as the replacement of this lens, just like the 24-120 F4 as the replacement of its previous version (with a lot of price upgrade).
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#22
[quote name='Frank' timestamp='1313379352' post='10748']

Perhas Nikon considered the 16-35 F4 as the replacement of this lens, just like the 24-120 F4 as the replacement of its previous version (with a lot of price upgrade).

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You're probably right, but I don't like the price increase bit. Many recent lens releases assume that users have become much wealthier!
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#23
C'mon... Canon has so many dogs in their lineup.

At least 1 lemon has to come from Nikon ;-)



(Sorry, couldn't resist <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Tongue' /> )
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#24
Well, yes, but then no Canon lens (or any other lens) has scored that low here so far <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Wink' />



Hm, maybe I should donate an EF 28-90 to Klaus ...



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#25
[quote name='AAC7man' timestamp='1313398006' post='10754']

You're probably right, but I don't like the price increase bit. Many recent lens releases assume that users have become much wealthier!

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Just like the Canon EF 20-35mm f3.5-4.5 USM was followed up by the Canon EF 17-40mm f4 L USM, the Nikon AF-S 16-35mm f4 VR is a replacement for the AF 18-35mm f3.5-4.5 D.



About the price:

The Nikon AF 18-35mm f3.5-4.5 D was priced 1400 DM in 2001. If we totally disregard inflation, that would be €700. But we know we can not disregard inflation.

The Nikon AF-S 16-35mm f4 VR retails for €1000. That seems pretty decent, compared to what the 18-35mm cost when it was still a "current lens".
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#26
[quote name='AAC7man' timestamp='1313398006' post='10754']

You're probably right, but I don't like the price increase bit. Many recent lens releases assume that users have become much wealthier!

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For most equipment, there's a starting price which is higher. Over the sale lifetime the price drops gradually until just before it is discontinued. Any replacement would generally come in at a similar entry price, waiting for the price drop cycle to work again... its more obvious on bodies though since they're on a shorter cycle than lenses, but something similar works there too. So within a space, there's old and cheap, or new and expensive. Had to break that cycle... unless something is out of production and still desirable, in which case you get old and expensive! For example, I'd love to play with a Noct-Nikkor but the price is something else... if you can even find one.
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#27
Perhaps it's time for Nikon to discontinue production of this lens...
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#28
I have the AF Nikkor 18-35mm f/3.5-4.5D, and I believe the specimen tested by Photozone to be grossly defective/maladjusted!

My copy of this lens is SHARP! Already from wide open it's sharp way out! The corners are a little softer and darker of coarse.



From f/5.6 to f/11 this lens is top notch, only slightly beaten by the 14-24, 24-70 and 17-35 on sharpness.

Of coarse it gives a bit more distortion and less light than those lenses, but that's the price to be paid for the extremely small size and weight.



In NO WAY do I recognize the results in Photozone's review from my experience with this lens!

And I have tested it head-to-head with many pro lenses.

This lens har many good reviews out there, so don't judge it on this review alone <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' />
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#29
[quote name='aalesund' timestamp='1313760098' post='10834']

And I have tested it head-to-head with many pro lenses.

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On the D3x?



In any case: if you think you have a much better performing sample, you're definitely invited to send it in.



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#30
aalesund, it may help if you can link to full size samples you've taken with your lens sample.
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