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#31
[quote name='eltoucan' date='06 June 2010 - 09:30 AM' timestamp='1275813047' post='263']

Even if money is not an issue, the weight can become one.

That is the reason why I took the 7D over the 5D.

And I still find my system too heavy.

Weight is actually stopping me each time I consider the 17-55IS.

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Try taking the 1DIII and 300/2.8IS out for an afternoon, then you will realise the 7D and 17-55IS are featherweights!
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#32
To the OP. I am a Canon shooter so can only really give you advice from this camp. If you are into portraits, there are 2 options at the moment which are still on the market which are great for portraits: 5D Mark II and 1Ds Mark III. The 5DII has the advantage of being newer so has nice features such as hi-res LCD screen and video however once you have used a 1D you will rarely be happy with a non-1D again; the AF and the sound of the shutter/mirror are great! Obviously the 1D is far more expensive and weighs a tonne but it is a great machine. The 1DsIV is also due out soon if money really is no option.



Now the problem with the above is that they are both full frame therefore the focus points lie more tightly in the centre of the frame. Sorry to say but I dont know of any FF SLR that doesnt. So I think you will have to make a decision of which is most important, AF point layout or IQ for portrait (read Full Frame). If you choose AF point layout then you open up a couple more options. The 1DIV has fantastic IQ and even better AF however the points still dont cover a huge part of the frame. The 7D however has decent AF and the point coverage is the best in Canon camp. The problem with the 7D is that it is a cropped camera, and cramming in 18MP means that you will need very good glass to get the most of it.



I hope this helps you in your decision!

Allan.
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#33
[quote name='PuxaVida' date='07 June 2010 - 09:55 AM' timestamp='1275897339' post='297']

Thanks Wim... I'll save these two posts... Do you have a blog or something like that which you share your knowledge?



Serkan

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Hi Serkan,



Thank you for your kind words. I don't have a blog currently; I have been trying to set one up for the last 3 years or so. For some reason it just doesn't go as fast as I want to <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Tongue' />.



I'll let you know when I finally get there <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' />.



Kind regards, Wim
Gear: Canon EOS R with 3 primes and 2 zooms, 4 EF-R adapters, Canon EOS 5 (analog), 9 Canon EF primes, a lone Canon EF zoom, 2 extenders, 2 converters, tubes; Olympus OM-D 1 Mk II & Pen F with 12 primes, 6 zooms, and 3 Metabones EF-MFT adapters ....
Away
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#34
Even the Pro's are focusing and recomposing. I see it all time when they take group shots or something similar: Hold the camera straight, focus, tilt down to get everything on the picture and shoot several pictures with fast framerate. Repeat that 2-3 times.

I think you're always faster with focus&recompose than by using the selector. Of course you have to take into account that the focal plane changes when you're recomposing.
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#35
[quote name='toni-a' date='04 June 2010 - 04:37 PM' timestamp='1275665850' post='205']

I am considering upgrading my gear in a few months, I am not a student anymore so money is not a problem <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Tongue' />



Don't care about brand, full frame or crop, pixel count etc...

I need a camera with a high performance autofocus, I need the autofocus points to cover all the frame and be very acurate, since I will be using fast glass.

what annoys me most on my 30D, is that autofocus points are all close to the center, I often have to recompose after focusing.

What's the point of having more than 50 AF points if they are all close to the center ??

Basically I shoot everything, ok I am mainly a portraits shooter, but I often do nature photography, I also shoot sometimes sports and weddings, that's why I am demanding.

Which camera body would you recommend ?

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In addition to all the comments of that topic I would suggest to wait for the D300s / D700 / 5D replacements.

Just to make sure you do not miss something.
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#36
[quote name='mst' date='07 June 2010 - 08:30 AM' timestamp='1275895849' post='296']

Well, yes, it wasn't probably the best idea to cram 18 MP on that sensor (but see Wim's extensive post about this, too). My comments were largely about the body, haptics, viewfinder, feature, AF, etc. ...







Only the login credentials were transferred, but apart from that the new forum is a cut and fresh start, we all began as newbies here last week.



-- Markus

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Thanks Markus. How do you get the quotes to which you're referring inside a green box in your reply? Also how do I add my details to my profile on the left hand side?



Michael



Michael
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#37
[quote name='HarryLally' date='07 June 2010 - 04:07 PM' timestamp='1275923271' post='310']

Thanks Markus. How do you get the quotes to which you're referring inside a green box in your reply? Also how do I add my details to my profile on the left hand side?





Michael

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OK.I see it does it automatically. Must have done something wrong in my first post.
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#38
[quote name='HarryLally' date='07 June 2010 - 02:58 PM' timestamp='1275893891' post='295']

,,,And yet...Klaus has made an adverse comment or two about the 7D's IQ here and there has been quite a number of criticisms of its IQ by users over at dpreview, particularly concerning low ISO noise and banding.[/quote]



Low ISO noise and banding is not apparent on every 7D sensor. It varies from one copy to another, thanks to Canon QC. I have pixel peeped images from a few copies and they are all free from low ISO noise and banding. Also, I am very confident the 550D sensor will be free from such problems simply because it has two channel output (lower frame rate) instead of four.



If you want to compare RAW images from 10D, 20D... to 70D including D100, D200 and D300, take a look at [url="http://pixinfo.com/cikkek/dslr_evolution.3"]this Hungarian site[/url]. It contains the most comprehensive results. At the pixel level, the 7D is NOT in anyway inferior to the 20D. At the image level, it beats out everything else.



The remaining complaints come from (i) people who believe in the megapixel myth without any real experience whatsoever with the cameras (ii) trolls and green-eyed monsters. Wait till Nikon update their D90 and D5000 sensors with more pixels... these myths will die quickly and silently.
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#39
[quote name='Sylvain' date='05 June 2010 - 11:02 PM' timestamp='1275775351' post='253']

Wim, now that we have a new forum, there is hope to make a "sticky" post with all your elaborate posts <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' />



sorry for interrupting,

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I second that! A very informative post - thanks, Wim!





I don't want to hijack the thread either, but ... I have only ever used the centre focus point and recomposed on (analogue + digital) SLRs. It's probably due to me starting off with rangefinders that I never got into all that - and I've gradually switched to an almost totally manual-focus lens range on my DSLR.



Is there any real advantage to using the multiple focus points except the convenience of not having to re-frame the shot? Would it be beneficial to 'learn' to use this feature?
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#40
If you track objects then I believe multiple focus points is a real winner. I personally do not do much BIF (bird in flight) or sports but I have seen detail descriptions of how those folks expect cameras to behave. I personally tend to focus on more static or slow moving objects and in those cases use center point only. I did once shoot a soccer game and at that time wished I had better tracking.



[quote name='Pinhole' date='09 June 2010 - 12:49 AM' timestamp='1276040965' post='355']

I second that! A very informative post - thanks, Wim!





I don't want to hijack the thread either, but ... I have only ever used the centre focus point and recomposed on (analogue + digital) SLRs. It's probably due to me starting off with rangefinders that I never got into all that - and I've gradually switched to an almost totally manual-focus lens range on my DSLR.



Is there any real advantage to using the multiple focus points except the convenience of not having to re-frame the shot? Would it be beneficial to 'learn' to use this feature?

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