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#1
Nice retro style, large sensor:



http://photorumors.com/2010/09/19/the-new-fujifilm-finepix-x100-is-very-interesting/



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#2
DPReview actually posted a news item as well. Looks interesting, and I really liek the retro look. Just a pity it is APS-C <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />.



[url="http://www.dpreview.com/news/1009/10091910fujifilmx100.asp"]http://www.dpreview.com/news/1009/10091910fujifilmx100.asp[/url]



Kind regards, Wim
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#3
[quote name='wim' timestamp='1284966914' post='2948']

Just a pity it is APS-C <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />.[/quote]

Hoping for a cheap M9 equivalent? <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Wink' />



Body only size comparable to E-P1, fixed lens seems to be smaller than Panasonic 20mm f/1.7.



I think the most interesting aspects of it are the hybrid finder and as a nice touch the built in ND filter.
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#4
As I understand, you can't change the lens? In that case it might become just another niche product (like Sigma DP, for instance) Undecided
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#5
[quote name='Lomskij' timestamp='1284974496' post='2951']

As I understand, you can't change the lens? In that case it might become just another niche product (like Sigma DP, for instance) Undecided

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Yes, it's a fixed lens. And so it's in the same niche as the Sigma DP and Leica X1.



I'd prefer achangeable optic, too. But with a fixed lens it#s of course possible to carefully optimize sensor and lens for each other.



Good news is that they chose a rather fast lens and a somewhat universal focal length.



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#6
[quote name='popo' timestamp='1284972498' post='2950']

Hoping for a cheap M9 equivalent? <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />



Body only size comparable to E-P1, fixed lens seems to be smaller than Panasonic 20mm f/1.7.



I think the most interesting aspects of it are the hybrid finder and as a nice touch the built in ND filter.

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<img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Wink' />



Not so much cheap, as a better sensor <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' />. I do agree with the hybrid finder, very nice idea.



Kind regards, Wim
Gear: Canon EOS R with 3 primes and 2 zooms, 4 EF-R adapters, Canon EOS 5 (analog), 9 Canon EF primes, a lone Canon EF zoom, 2 extenders, 2 converters, tubes; Olympus OM-D 1 Mk II & Pen F with 12 primes, 6 zooms, and 3 Metabones EF-MFT adapters ....
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#7
[quote name='mst' timestamp='1284974994' post='2952']

Yes, it's a fixed lens. And so it's in the same niche as the Sigma DP and Leica X1.



I'd prefer achangeable optic, too. But with a fixed lens it#s of course possible to carefully optimize sensor and lens for each other.



Good news is that they chose a rather fast lens and a somewhat universal focal length.



-- Markus

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That is a rather small niche, however, if you ask me. I really wonder why they made the lens fixed.



Kind regards, Wim
Gear: Canon EOS R with 3 primes and 2 zooms, 4 EF-R adapters, Canon EOS 5 (analog), 9 Canon EF primes, a lone Canon EF zoom, 2 extenders, 2 converters, tubes; Olympus OM-D 1 Mk II & Pen F with 12 primes, 6 zooms, and 3 Metabones EF-MFT adapters ....
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#8
[quote name='wim' timestamp='1284978088' post='2955']

That is a rather small niche, however, if you ask me. I really wonder why they made the lens fixed.



Kind regards, Wim

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In order to optimize speed (both aperture and start-up), quality, and compactness. This would appear to be the 'high-quality simple compact' that many forum posters (on other forums) have wanted for years. It's so radically different, the attempt alone is worth it. For instance, it only has four shooting modes - Aperture, Speed, Programmed and Manual. Not even Auto! They've trimmed out all the unnecessary fluff, and good riddance.



This is not a mass-market camera, it's a (second) camera for serious photographers who want a small but good thing at the ready always. And, probably, for war photographers. And discreet street shooting. It is, indeed, a niche product like the Sigma, but with a lot more things done right (high ISO, f/2, manual aperture and speed, optical *and* electronic viewfinder).



-Lars
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#9
[quote name='larsrc' timestamp='1284980308' post='2964']

In order to optimize speed (both aperture and start-up), quality, and compactness. This would appear to be the 'high-quality simple compact' that many forum posters (on other forums) have wanted for years. It's so radically different, the attempt alone is worth it. For instance, it only has four shooting modes - Aperture, Speed, Programmed and Manual. Not even Auto! They've trimmed out all the unnecessary fluff, and good riddance.



This is not a mass-market camera, it's a (second) camera for serious photographers who want a small but good thing at the ready always. And, probably, for war photographers. And discreet street shooting. It is, indeed, a niche product like the Sigma, but with a lot more things done right (high ISO, f/2, manual aperture and speed, optical *and* electronic viewfinder).



-Lars

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Hi Lars,



Yes, and I did realize that, but I guess I am in a much smaller niche in that case. I'd want a 45 or 50 mm FF AoV equivalent lens in that case <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />.



Kind regards, Wim
Gear: Canon EOS R with 3 primes and 2 zooms, 4 EF-R adapters, Canon EOS 5 (analog), 9 Canon EF primes, a lone Canon EF zoom, 2 extenders, 2 converters, tubes; Olympus OM-D 1 Mk II & Pen F with 12 primes, 6 zooms, and 3 Metabones EF-MFT adapters ....
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#10
[quote name='mst' timestamp='1284974994' post='2952']

Yes, it's a fixed lens. And so it's in the same niche as the Sigma DP and Leica X1.



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I think the key problem with these to models is that they gained a reputation to not work well. On top of that the Leica is freaking expensive.



Whether the Fujica will fly or won't depends on, whether this camera AFs reliable and whether the price is reasonable.



The top plate reminds me on the Contax G2.



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