05-03-2012, 12:11 PM
[quote name='Yakim' timestamp='1336040554' post='17961']
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Well, without going too much into details (you'll have to wait for the review for the lab results): I wasn't really impressed by both lenses.
The Noctilux is of course very special, and can produce very creamy bokeh. But, like other fast normal primes (think of the 50L) the bokeh can also look quite strange at medium subject distances, a bit nervous and "swirly". It is, however, certainly far ahead of other very fast primes in this regard. Google for samples of the Voigtländer Nokton f/1.1 or the older non-aspherical Noctilux (f/1.0) to get an impression how those lenses render.
I very much like the 24/1.4 on my Nikons, but on the M9 I way too often ran into the MFD limitations of the system with the Summilux lens (very often I would have preferred to get closer than 0.7m to the main subject to get a more dramatic wide angle perspective). In addition, the Summilux is a symmetrical wide angle lens, which means it has very pronounced vignetting, even stopped down. Wide open, vignetting exceeds 5 EV (a new record). To put things into perspective: vignetting figures are generally higher than on other full frame cameras, even with moderately fast lenses (at least for normal focal lengthes and below, the issue is less pronounced with longer lenses). That's simply a result of the short flange distance of the system (and obviously one of the many challenges Leica faced during the construction of the digital M cameras, which in the end lead to specially designed micro-lenses and the 6-bit coding, which among other things adresses vignetting and (non-recoverably) corrects it even in RAW files).
Apart from the vignetting, the lens is quite good and very sharp in the center (you'd probably expect that for this price).
Both lenses, especially the Noctilux, are very large and heavy for M-mount lenses. However, the Noctilux certainly has an advantage over the SLR Magic Hyperprime here, which is even larger and heavier.
-- Markus
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The Noctilux is of course very special, and can produce very creamy bokeh. But, like other fast normal primes (think of the 50L) the bokeh can also look quite strange at medium subject distances, a bit nervous and "swirly". It is, however, certainly far ahead of other very fast primes in this regard. Google for samples of the Voigtländer Nokton f/1.1 or the older non-aspherical Noctilux (f/1.0) to get an impression how those lenses render.
I very much like the 24/1.4 on my Nikons, but on the M9 I way too often ran into the MFD limitations of the system with the Summilux lens (very often I would have preferred to get closer than 0.7m to the main subject to get a more dramatic wide angle perspective). In addition, the Summilux is a symmetrical wide angle lens, which means it has very pronounced vignetting, even stopped down. Wide open, vignetting exceeds 5 EV (a new record). To put things into perspective: vignetting figures are generally higher than on other full frame cameras, even with moderately fast lenses (at least for normal focal lengthes and below, the issue is less pronounced with longer lenses). That's simply a result of the short flange distance of the system (and obviously one of the many challenges Leica faced during the construction of the digital M cameras, which in the end lead to specially designed micro-lenses and the 6-bit coding, which among other things adresses vignetting and (non-recoverably) corrects it even in RAW files).
Apart from the vignetting, the lens is quite good and very sharp in the center (you'd probably expect that for this price).
Both lenses, especially the Noctilux, are very large and heavy for M-mount lenses. However, the Noctilux certainly has an advantage over the SLR Magic Hyperprime here, which is even larger and heavier.
-- Markus
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