08-21-2010, 06:58 PM
[quote name='Brightcolours' timestamp='1282384216' post='1987']
Wim, you are totally forgetting the Sigma 8-16mm. That is king of the hill. [/quote]
Well, that's very extreme UWA, and since I haven't tried one yet, considering my experiences with its FF equivalent, I'd honestly have to see it first for myself. Also, it is a slow lens, where the Tokina is a great lens for low light stuff.
Yes, I had one for several years, from right when I got my first dslr until I moved to FF for good.
It does suffer a bit of PF, though, especially (as is to be expected) with large contrast transitions.
I also reckon that the 17-40L on FF is better.
It isn't all that bad IMO, and it is proper CA, quite easily correctable <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />.
I can't remember to be very honest, it has been some time no since I last looked through a D300 VF. The D700 is fine, though, if that is of any help <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />. My problem really is that I only look at Nikons out of curiosity, to keep more or less up-to-date with what's happening in dslr-land, and some friends of mine own D700s, so I get to handle one every so often <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />. Only 1 person I know owns a d300, but he rarely brings it along.
I do prefer my 5D II, however <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />. And I always have it with me, except when doing the weekly shop (but in that case I have the G10 <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />).
Kind regards, Wim
Wim, you are totally forgetting the Sigma 8-16mm. That is king of the hill. [/quote]
Well, that's very extreme UWA, and since I haven't tried one yet, considering my experiences with its FF equivalent, I'd honestly have to see it first for myself. Also, it is a slow lens, where the Tokina is a great lens for low light stuff.
Quote:The Canon 10-22mm is a good UWA too.
Yes, I had one for several years, from right when I got my first dslr until I moved to FF for good.
It does suffer a bit of PF, though, especially (as is to be expected) with large contrast transitions.
I also reckon that the 17-40L on FF is better.
Quote:I am seriously not impressed with the actual build quality of my Tokina 12-24mm... and most probably will not burn my fingers on the Tokina 11-16mm f2.8. Also, considering it has that CA again.
It isn't all that bad IMO, and it is proper CA, quite easily correctable <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />.
Quote:So for me, it would be a choice between Canon 10-22mm USM and Sigma 8-16mm, a choice between lens with filter thread and protected by hood front element, and lens with more width, sharpness and exposed front element.
Further I would like to point out to old wolf that you had a problem with the viewfinder of the 7D because you are a glasses wearer and that is very personal in your case, and I would like to ask you, Winm, if that is the same with the D300? To old wolf, you have to try view finders out yourself.
I can't remember to be very honest, it has been some time no since I last looked through a D300 VF. The D700 is fine, though, if that is of any help <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />. My problem really is that I only look at Nikons out of curiosity, to keep more or less up-to-date with what's happening in dslr-land, and some friends of mine own D700s, so I get to handle one every so often <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />. Only 1 person I know owns a d300, but he rarely brings it along.
I do prefer my 5D II, however <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />. And I always have it with me, except when doing the weekly shop (but in that case I have the G10 <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />).
Kind regards, Wim
Gear: Canon EOS R with 3 primes and 2 zooms, 4 EF-R adapters, Canon EOS 5 (analog), 9 Canon EF primes, a lone Canon EF zoom, 2 extenders, 2 converters, tubes; Olympus OM-D 1 Mk II & Pen F with 12 primes, 6 zooms, and 3 Metabones EF-MFT adapters ....