08-19-2013, 11:15 AM
Quote:I find you're replacing one statement "better ergonomics" with another "operating with one hand", but I don't get it - Canon has also one function wheel on the left side. And I'm no big fan of one-hand shooting (as Kai Wong is, i.e.) so I can't see the big advantage. But I agree with Markus, one should just try it and ergonomics is as well also an individual thing. I just see no buttons on the left side which I regularly need in my kind of photographing. And with huge lenses one hand shooting? Anyway, I asked, thank you for replying.You hold/support the lens with left, you hold and operate the camera with right. The 6D is totally controllable while shooting with right. Also, reviewing images is possible just with the right hand (thumb). It really makes sense. The 5D mk III is not that convenient. Ergonomics is about how well/easy something is operated.
Quote:I was only referring to 70D and would be happy if Nikon designers would also dare to do a good job with swivel touchscreens, but I realize some of the Nikonians would not like 'em, fearing problems like "I'd rip it away", "not weather proof" (but it is as good as any other prosumer cam), "I'm not shooting LV" and real progressive other opinions like "who needs touchscreens". So I guess I wait without hope...What is not logical? It is just that way. Big DR has a FLAT look to it, because the white point and black point are shifted far out. Has nothing to do with playback devices... Just with having such a huge dynamic range. The fakeness I am talking about is the silly HDR look (they start to look not real, so fake), or when people make sunny days look like overcast days where shadows are no longer shadows.
Not logical. Just because there are these days not much devices to playback high DR full range, it's stupid to talk about flat contrast. And talking about fakes - your B/W interpretations are then as well a fake. Everything you do in postprocess - all fake and we're doing it all the time.
Quote:<p style="margin-left:0px;">So, while the Canon already shows a white sky, the Nikon will show still some structures, given the same conditions. I consider that as good, but if you think, each photo using more than 8 stops is fake or flat contrast, well, fine.<p style="margin-left:0px;">That is just not true. Canon in fact blows out highlights later than Nikon, in the latest cameras. You do not seem to understand what 14 stops of DR actually means? It means this:
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<p style="margin-left:0px;">That is a normal tonal curve on the left, with a DR of between 6 and 8 stops. And on the right 14 stops. The white and black points are pushed so far apart that whet we normally perceive as dark and bright all gets to be greys.
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<p style="margin-left:0px;">Since 6 to 8 stops looks normal, with a 6D you also have a lot of headroom lurking in RAW, if you are a person who likes to pull up shadows or who likes to make photos have less contrast. Sure, at base ISO the D600 offers even more headroom. A headroom almost no one has use for, though, and that is worth pointing out, instead of constantly hammering on "14 stops DR".
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Quote:It would have been more convincing, not only to write another statement but also to put a link into the post. It's always easy to say, sources are unreliable or of bad reputation if their conclusions dare to be different from the desired ones.
Anyway, I'm not interested in another Canon vs Nikon debate and I'm also no Nikon fanboy, I just like the touch and output of Nikons better than the ones from Canon. Which doesn't mean I would give the G11 away for some Nikon. Even Canon pictures can be nicely tuned