09-06-2010, 11:41 AM
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Thank you Brightcolours, as always your message is clear <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' /> I am actually going to buy the Tamron and then we shall see. Am actually not being adviced by any "Nikon boys", but of course there are different opinions on this Forum too. <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> I am thinking a 60mm macro, because it will act as a long prime as well. Have you got a better proposition than the Nikon one? Same thing with the 16-85, I think it is a well performing lense, but of course I could try the Sigma or Tamron 17-50. What do you think?
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Well, the Nikon 16-85mm VR is s nice lens for the type of lens it is. That is your choice, the type of lens.
Personally (meaning, for me...) the Canon EF-S 15-85mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM and Nikon AF-S 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 VR are less attractive because of their small maximum aperture. So for me, a Sigma 17-50mm f2.8 OS HSM would be a lens to look at.
For others, the large focal range of the 16-85mm makes it ideal as walk around standard zoom lens. It just depends on what preferences you as photographer have. So... if you are in the market for a larger focal range standard zoom, the Nikon 16-85mm is a solid choice.
The Nikon 60mm f2.8 micro, like the Sigma 70mm f2.8 macro and Tamron 60mm f2 macro (DX/APS-C only) makes for a good portrait prime, yes. Like I said before, there are no bad macro lenses.
But there are a few things about the new 60mm from Nikon that make me dislike it. The old non-AF-S Nikon 60mm f2,8 Micro D had a recessed front element. Which was nice for 2 reasons: You never have to clean it (never gets finger smudges), and you do not need to use your lens hood to prevent sun light from the side making ghosts and degrading contrast.
With the AF-S redesign, the lens got an internal focus design, which made it a lot longer. The old lens extended a bit, but even extended it is not as long as the new one. With the front element exposed, using the hood makes sense (especially to prevent the light problems). But that makes the lens even longer.
It shares that "problem" with the Canon EF-S 60mm f2.8 USM and Tamron 60mm f2 Di II, though. The Sigma 70mm f2.8's front element is not very recessed either, and that lens extends a lot.
The other thing I do not like about that lens, is that it has quite severe CA for a prime lens, and for a macro lens unparalleled CA.
Those things make it for me a lens I personally would not go for. But your mileage may vary, and you may well be happy with that Nikon 60mm. Especially since you like the idea of it acting as a portrait prime. So you can just ignore my personal reservations about that particular lens.
Thank you Brightcolours, as always your message is clear <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' /> I am actually going to buy the Tamron and then we shall see. Am actually not being adviced by any "Nikon boys", but of course there are different opinions on this Forum too. <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> I am thinking a 60mm macro, because it will act as a long prime as well. Have you got a better proposition than the Nikon one? Same thing with the 16-85, I think it is a well performing lense, but of course I could try the Sigma or Tamron 17-50. What do you think?[/quote]
Well, the Nikon 16-85mm VR is s nice lens for the type of lens it is. That is your choice, the type of lens.
Personally (meaning, for me...) the Canon EF-S 15-85mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM and Nikon AF-S 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 VR are less attractive because of their small maximum aperture. So for me, a Sigma 17-50mm f2.8 OS HSM would be a lens to look at.
For others, the large focal range of the 16-85mm makes it ideal as walk around standard zoom lens. It just depends on what preferences you as photographer have. So... if you are in the market for a larger focal range standard zoom, the Nikon 16-85mm is a solid choice.
The Nikon 60mm f2.8 micro, like the Sigma 70mm f2.8 macro and Tamron 60mm f2 macro (DX/APS-C only) makes for a good portrait prime, yes. Like I said before, there are no bad macro lenses.
But there are a few things about the new 60mm from Nikon that make me dislike it. The old non-AF-S Nikon 60mm f2,8 Micro D had a recessed front element. Which was nice for 2 reasons: You never have to clean it (never gets finger smudges), and you do not need to use your lens hood to prevent sun light from the side making ghosts and degrading contrast.
With the AF-S redesign, the lens got an internal focus design, which made it a lot longer. The old lens extended a bit, but even extended it is not as long as the new one. With the front element exposed, using the hood makes sense (especially to prevent the light problems). But that makes the lens even longer.
It shares that "problem" with the Canon EF-S 60mm f2.8 USM and Tamron 60mm f2 Di II, though. The Sigma 70mm f2.8's front element is not very recessed either, and that lens extends a lot.
The other thing I do not like about that lens, is that it has quite severe CA for a prime lens, and for a macro lens unparalleled CA.
Those things make it for me a lens I personally would not go for. But your mileage may vary, and you may well be happy with that Nikon 60mm. Especially since you like the idea of it acting as a portrait prime. So you can just ignore my personal reservations about that particular lens.