03-20-2015, 08:32 AM
Look, Scythels/AiryDiscus: Testing one lens in each aspect and at the border of physical possible measuring devices is one thing. Especially if you have all time of the world and not a couple of some thousand customers waiting for the long ago promised units. Testing on production level and being good enough (which is better than others, especially at the prices YOU are not able to make the design (of the whole lens, not only the glass pieces to put them on an optical bench) for nor to manufacturing them on high quality level at reasonable prices.
You're beating over and over the same bush of weak design, poor quality and mysterious phantom superb designs. Please explain, if you see every lens tester confirming Sigma's qualities as stupid idiot? Do you really think, all Sigma customers are brainless jerks who simply don't understand they're buying crap? Or list some of the lenses you consider as "meh"- that alone is arrogant, because you're not able to do better at this price! - from another manufacturer which is "wow", but not at the cost of 10× the price.
Years ago I had a friend who went to university, we shared the same hobby and he often used the university's testing equipment like interferometers and other stuff to prove something. He very often argued like you do, so I'm familiar with student attempts to get a serious reputation. But pulling exotic lens design against photo-industry stuff is just like comparing a bicycle with a rocket. One brings you to the moon and with another one I go shopping. There are not much shops on the moon, so I leave my rocket in the garage.
It's just, the game is not working this way. Talking a bit more humble is not exactly a crime. Realizing real world lens business is something else than lens testing on a university campus could help you at the end to dig deeper. If you want to discuss glas on a scientific base with people who always understand your explanations, there might be better forums for.
You're beating over and over the same bush of weak design, poor quality and mysterious phantom superb designs. Please explain, if you see every lens tester confirming Sigma's qualities as stupid idiot? Do you really think, all Sigma customers are brainless jerks who simply don't understand they're buying crap? Or list some of the lenses you consider as "meh"- that alone is arrogant, because you're not able to do better at this price! - from another manufacturer which is "wow", but not at the cost of 10× the price.
Years ago I had a friend who went to university, we shared the same hobby and he often used the university's testing equipment like interferometers and other stuff to prove something. He very often argued like you do, so I'm familiar with student attempts to get a serious reputation. But pulling exotic lens design against photo-industry stuff is just like comparing a bicycle with a rocket. One brings you to the moon and with another one I go shopping. There are not much shops on the moon, so I leave my rocket in the garage.
It's just, the game is not working this way. Talking a bit more humble is not exactly a crime. Realizing real world lens business is something else than lens testing on a university campus could help you at the end to dig deeper. If you want to discuss glas on a scientific base with people who always understand your explanations, there might be better forums for.