09-20-2010, 10:42 PM
Hi Joachim,
[quote name='joachim' timestamp='1285020788' post='3016']
Sorry you lost me on this one. Could you elaborate?[/quote]
I've always been amazed by and have admired the dogged perseverance of Olympus in this regard. It never really seemed to take off, basically because although the idea was good, the time wasn't right (yet). Right at the start of FT the sensor IQ wasn't really there yet, and certainly over here Olympus always got bad press in any photoshop I ever visited, and that's true till this day.
I dont think they did all that well, certainly not over here. I see and saw lots of cameras on the streets, but when it comes to dslrs it always is APS-C or larger, with Nikon and Canon by far in the lead. And in the past five years I actually have never ever encountered anyone who actually owned an Olympus FT dslr, only Panasonic, and even that only once. I only ever saw Olympus at exhibitions and the like.
For Olympus I do think dslr is doomed, and muFT is the way to go, as that has proved rather popular, although I wonder what will be happening now APS-C sized sensor versions from other brands are mushrooming everywhere currently.
With regard to Nikon, they actually filed a bunch of patents regarding a "mirrorless" camera with exchangeable lenses for a smaller than muFT sensor a while ago, Of course nobody but Nikon knows whether they will go ahead with that. As to Canon: they are more tightlipped than the Sphinx, so who knows what they are up to, apart from designing very large sensors. There was one interview, where they spoke of dslrs withotu optical VFs, but still with a mirror, but that was a few years ago. Of course, Sony has come up now with such a design, but I reckon many peopel will still find it too large and cumbersome.
I do expect there to be adapters for the "older" lenses, however, just like with muFT, so we can all continue to use our old lenses somehow. Considering the amount of lenses out there, Canon and Nikon will have ot take them into account, as I would think people would really revolt and go in other directions otherwise.
Hmmm. Maybe it is time to switch to Leica now after all <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />. I honestly do wish a company like Canon would create an RF/mirrorless type camera, FF, which could also use their existing EF lens range. That would really be my ideal type of camera.
Kind regards, Wim
[quote name='joachim' timestamp='1285020788' post='3016']
Sorry you lost me on this one. Could you elaborate?[/quote]
I've always been amazed by and have admired the dogged perseverance of Olympus in this regard. It never really seemed to take off, basically because although the idea was good, the time wasn't right (yet). Right at the start of FT the sensor IQ wasn't really there yet, and certainly over here Olympus always got bad press in any photoshop I ever visited, and that's true till this day.
Quote:I presently find it more amasing how quickly fortunes change in that business. With the success of the E-410 and E-510 one thought FT was quite healthy.
I dont think they did all that well, certainly not over here. I see and saw lots of cameras on the streets, but when it comes to dslrs it always is APS-C or larger, with Nikon and Canon by far in the lead. And in the past five years I actually have never ever encountered anyone who actually owned an Olympus FT dslr, only Panasonic, and even that only once. I only ever saw Olympus at exhibitions and the like.
Quote: Now it is not so clear any more. On the other hand, it might be a smart move, if the SLR is doomed. As I wrote earlier, not many people outside the companies knows how Nikon and Canon are going to handle mirror less. Depending on what these are doing we might see similar complaints here.
For Olympus I do think dslr is doomed, and muFT is the way to go, as that has proved rather popular, although I wonder what will be happening now APS-C sized sensor versions from other brands are mushrooming everywhere currently.
With regard to Nikon, they actually filed a bunch of patents regarding a "mirrorless" camera with exchangeable lenses for a smaller than muFT sensor a while ago, Of course nobody but Nikon knows whether they will go ahead with that. As to Canon: they are more tightlipped than the Sphinx, so who knows what they are up to, apart from designing very large sensors. There was one interview, where they spoke of dslrs withotu optical VFs, but still with a mirror, but that was a few years ago. Of course, Sony has come up now with such a design, but I reckon many peopel will still find it too large and cumbersome.
I do expect there to be adapters for the "older" lenses, however, just like with muFT, so we can all continue to use our old lenses somehow. Considering the amount of lenses out there, Canon and Nikon will have ot take them into account, as I would think people would really revolt and go in other directions otherwise.
Hmmm. Maybe it is time to switch to Leica now after all <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />. I honestly do wish a company like Canon would create an RF/mirrorless type camera, FF, which could also use their existing EF lens range. That would really be my ideal type of camera.
Kind regards, Wim
Gear: Canon EOS R with 3 primes and 2 zooms, 4 EF-R adapters, Canon EOS 5 (analog), 9 Canon EF primes, a lone Canon EF zoom, 2 extenders, 2 converters, tubes; Olympus OM-D 1 Mk II & Pen F with 12 primes, 6 zooms, and 3 Metabones EF-MFT adapters ....