09-23-2010, 02:23 PM
[quote name='Brightcolours' timestamp='1285230519' post='3144']
On the other hand, Pentax has never actually been much bigger. And yet it was viable for them to survive. But they do need some better products (like the K5), they need to stop making cameras that only compete with cameras in their own range (to me the K-m, K-x and K-r do not make sense, there should only be one in that segment). What Pentax really could use is a full frame DSLR with K5 characteristics. And then some new primes that do not just focus on compactness, but also in versatility (see Canon's f1.2-1.4-2 range) to cater for a more diverse client circle.
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Agreed, AFAIAC, they started going downhill when they left the professional 35 mm slr market 15 to 20 years ago and tried to do commodity goods for the consumer market.
[quote name='inaki' timestamp='1285243138' post='3156']
I don´t think Pentax needs that, to be honest. What they need is to adjust prices and gain visibility, in any case.[/quote]
Visibility is created by having a professional line, that is what many companies seem to forget. It si amonst others about consumer pride: "hey, they do a Formula 1 model, so they must be good" kinda thing.
I don't understand your comment here. Canon has a very extensive range of lenses, in 4 different categories, which makes ti possible for everybody to choose their poison for the budget they have. Nikon is similar, not entirely there yet at the same level as Canon, but getting closer, and both have possibly a few lenses missing from their range anyway when it comes to very, very specific needs.
Olympus started all over again, as they had to. However, they seem to be abolishing their dslr adventure now, certainly when it comes to lenses. And they still have a limited range, both in their range as well as their market segments.
Kind regards, Wim
On the other hand, Pentax has never actually been much bigger. And yet it was viable for them to survive. But they do need some better products (like the K5), they need to stop making cameras that only compete with cameras in their own range (to me the K-m, K-x and K-r do not make sense, there should only be one in that segment). What Pentax really could use is a full frame DSLR with K5 characteristics. And then some new primes that do not just focus on compactness, but also in versatility (see Canon's f1.2-1.4-2 range) to cater for a more diverse client circle.
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Agreed, AFAIAC, they started going downhill when they left the professional 35 mm slr market 15 to 20 years ago and tried to do commodity goods for the consumer market.
[quote name='inaki' timestamp='1285243138' post='3156']
I don´t think Pentax needs that, to be honest. What they need is to adjust prices and gain visibility, in any case.[/quote]
Visibility is created by having a professional line, that is what many companies seem to forget. It si amonst others about consumer pride: "hey, they do a Formula 1 model, so they must be good" kinda thing.
Quote:To be honest, the best lens map of them all is the Olympus lens range, which is quite well stepped. Nikon-Canon lens map is such a mess and there is so much overlapping that they seem to be a cellphone carrier price plan.
And that is so not good.
I don't understand your comment here. Canon has a very extensive range of lenses, in 4 different categories, which makes ti possible for everybody to choose their poison for the budget they have. Nikon is similar, not entirely there yet at the same level as Canon, but getting closer, and both have possibly a few lenses missing from their range anyway when it comes to very, very specific needs.
Olympus started all over again, as they had to. However, they seem to be abolishing their dslr adventure now, certainly when it comes to lenses. And they still have a limited range, both in their range as well as their market segments.
Kind regards, Wim
Gear: Canon EOS R with 3 primes and 2 zooms, 4 EF-R adapters, Canon EOS 5 (analog), 9 Canon EF primes, a lone Canon EF zoom, 2 extenders, 2 converters, tubes; Olympus OM-D 1 Mk II & Pen F with 12 primes, 6 zooms, and 3 Metabones EF-MFT adapters ....