[Rainer]

Late to the thread... I will state I do use adblock (abp + ghostery combo) as standard on my personal computers, but on my work ones ads get through. If I load the front page on my work laptop (can't remember exact CPU, it is a dual core Broadwell with HT) with all ads showing I hear the fan spin up and CPU usage goes to 30%. Close the page, it goes away. So I'm in the group "I'm not against advertising, but I'm against intrusive advertising", and my threshold of what counts as intrusive might vary from others.

 

I just did a quick check with my android tablet (small x86 dual core HT cpu plus opera browser and ad-block).

I  surfed various sites (not PZ) that are notorious for their ads.

 

If i switch off ad-block and I switch opera to desktop mode, some pages get loaded up

with so much ads that the tablet becomes entirey unresponsive ... and that is just the blinky-blinky-

and the poppy-uppy-stuff ... the flashy-flashy stuff doesnt get executed due to a missing

flashplayer ... in mobil mode its by far not that bad.

 

With ad-block activated i do not notice any load in either mode.

 

But according to Klaus, its ad-block thats from the dark side ... not exessively resource consuming

ads. These greedy ads are just as bad. But if the number of page-hits goes down, the only

compensation the ad-makers are comming up with is more ads per page ... rather than 

more intelligent and/or better made ads.

 

And btw ... there are indeed ads that I really like to see ... well done, informative ... even funny at times ...

far too few of them are arround these days.

 

Eventually we should use a browser on Windows that claims to be in mobile mode?

Ok the page layout gets ugly ... thats why I switch my opera to desktop mode.

 

In the end, Klaus is right ... someone has to cover the costs.

So, PZ will either become a site with pay-content (which would be fair enough)

the danger is, that the number of remaining readers might become marginal.

Or PZ will enforce users to switch of ad-blockers ... again, some readers

will go away then.

Or PZ will close down.

I do entirely agree with these arguments and the conclusion that follows from them.

 

I do NOT agree with the strongly biased judgement against ad-blockers.

 

Localy, unwanted ads by mail or by telefon are often a case for legal 

action against the one who sends the ad ... and these cas are often won.

 

However, if I go into a local mall, there will be ads on the display ... if I do not

want to see then, I should not go there. But ... I do not have to color my hair,

or wear a pointy hat to go there ... so everything has its limits.

And misuse of recources on my computer belongs to this. If 

the usual content of a page would be displayed ok, and the additional ad 

brings the browser into a state were it only can be killed, something has gone too far.

 

Rainer