11-27-2010, 11:41 AM
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As the great Johnny Nash once sang, "There are more questions than answers" <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' /> Thanks for all of your input.
In my film days I only ever used prime lenses, I was a Minolta user, and had a 28mm f2.8, 50mm f1.7, 100mm f2, 135mm f3.5 (all Rokkors) and a Tokina 400mm. Unfortunately they all were pinched, and I then moved on to a Canon RT, with two zooms that I bought off a mate 2nd hand.
I have always been frustrated by the lack of speed with the low end Canon Zooms, and would love to go back to using prime lenses. But they now seem very expensive, back in the day Zoom lenses on film cameras were looked down upon, and there was a good market for affordable primes, the manufactures fulfilled that, my perception is that with the advent of digital demand for primes in the mid amateur market has all but dried up, and the only offerings are now for Pros.
I can't see myself going Full Frame in the near future (or being able to afford to do so), so my dilemma will continue, <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' /> the 60D and 15-85 with a fast prime now slips into pole position.
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Keep in mind that with digital you can easily shoot up to iso800 without hardly any Iq sacrifice, so primes are only important for very low light or very shallow dof applications. In the film days you needed the speed of primes simply for getting shake free results because you wouldnt shoot film faster than ISO 100 (onslide ) or iso 200 on negative for optimal results. In addition the quality of zooms has improved a lot over the years, which means the 15-85 is practically at its optimum wide open (save for vignetting, which can be corrected in post). Your old primes normally needed to be stopped down two stops to deliver that performance.
As the great Johnny Nash once sang, "There are more questions than answers" <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' /> Thanks for all of your input.In my film days I only ever used prime lenses, I was a Minolta user, and had a 28mm f2.8, 50mm f1.7, 100mm f2, 135mm f3.5 (all Rokkors) and a Tokina 400mm. Unfortunately they all were pinched, and I then moved on to a Canon RT, with two zooms that I bought off a mate 2nd hand.
I have always been frustrated by the lack of speed with the low end Canon Zooms, and would love to go back to using prime lenses. But they now seem very expensive, back in the day Zoom lenses on film cameras were looked down upon, and there was a good market for affordable primes, the manufactures fulfilled that, my perception is that with the advent of digital demand for primes in the mid amateur market has all but dried up, and the only offerings are now for Pros.
I can't see myself going Full Frame in the near future (or being able to afford to do so), so my dilemma will continue, <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' /> the 60D and 15-85 with a fast prime now slips into pole position.
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Keep in mind that with digital you can easily shoot up to iso800 without hardly any Iq sacrifice, so primes are only important for very low light or very shallow dof applications. In the film days you needed the speed of primes simply for getting shake free results because you wouldnt shoot film faster than ISO 100 (onslide ) or iso 200 on negative for optimal results. In addition the quality of zooms has improved a lot over the years, which means the 15-85 is practically at its optimum wide open (save for vignetting, which can be corrected in post). Your old primes normally needed to be stopped down two stops to deliver that performance.