A couple of 35/1.4 lenses are cheaper than the 35/1.8 S - and optically not worse. 85/1.8: Also a couple of lower priced, equally performing lenses with less nervous bokeh. And all of these DSLR lenses are mechanically more challenging (clutches, distance scales) than the S-line is. Mechanically their design is rather simple, plus focus by wire is implemented rather poorly. They don't even feature an additional multi-function ring like Canon does.
The 24/1.8 S is more expensive than the really outstanding Sigma 28/1.4. And so on and so forth...
Sure, genuine lenses can call for higher prices. But with regards to the last 24/1.8, they already are going straight through the roof, but not delivering the value which correlates to the price.
If I wanted to go Sigma, I now had to steer towards Panasonic or the more expensive Panasonic or the really expensive Panasonic aka Leica. L-mount is still an interesting concept, too bad their AF is currently not even up to Canon or Nikon, let alone Sony.
I don't think Sigma will offer Z-glass in the next future - why should they? They can make the transition from DSLR lenses a bit slower than CaNikon. If I have to choose I rather go for an Art at 770.- 35/1.4 than for a Nikkor F at 1900.- (!!) which is softer. So, I guess Sigma will still make money with DSLR glass after the moment the genuine sales go dwon towards zero, would you agree? And meanwhile they gonna colelct new experience with ML glassfor their own mount, L-mount, E-mount. Get an instant payback as their reputation only gets better (see the last interview with Kazuto Yamaki's apologies for not being able to deliver the FF foveon in 2020 - something I really want to read from a Nikon CEO)
If I had the money I spent for gear during the last decade, I could go Leica. Or Phase One and get a small Leica to travel with. But I see it more as kind of ski holidays - the pass you pay for to slide down the mountains is also something to have pleasure with, but nothing which stays with me. And - I would not have taken a single picture with a sort of nice camera during this decade as I had to save the money for the big buy.
The 24/1.8 S is more expensive than the really outstanding Sigma 28/1.4. And so on and so forth...
Sure, genuine lenses can call for higher prices. But with regards to the last 24/1.8, they already are going straight through the roof, but not delivering the value which correlates to the price.
(02-11-2020, 10:56 AM)davidmanze Wrote: We both have spent money on glass over the years JoJu ...... I know I've wasted plenty of money on silly lenses ...... minimal upgrades, no doubt you have done the same ...... probably more than I.
The question is: Have we wasted eight grand, the price of this Noct? I bet the answer is YES!
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With your tastes in top flight bright glass I would imagine Canon would be your baby ...... but one timely move from Sigma and the whole thing could turn around at a stroke!
Let's hope Sigma step up to the plate!
If I wanted to go Sigma, I now had to steer towards Panasonic or the more expensive Panasonic or the really expensive Panasonic aka Leica. L-mount is still an interesting concept, too bad their AF is currently not even up to Canon or Nikon, let alone Sony.
I don't think Sigma will offer Z-glass in the next future - why should they? They can make the transition from DSLR lenses a bit slower than CaNikon. If I have to choose I rather go for an Art at 770.- 35/1.4 than for a Nikkor F at 1900.- (!!) which is softer. So, I guess Sigma will still make money with DSLR glass after the moment the genuine sales go dwon towards zero, would you agree? And meanwhile they gonna colelct new experience with ML glassfor their own mount, L-mount, E-mount. Get an instant payback as their reputation only gets better (see the last interview with Kazuto Yamaki's apologies for not being able to deliver the FF foveon in 2020 - something I really want to read from a Nikon CEO)
If I had the money I spent for gear during the last decade, I could go Leica. Or Phase One and get a small Leica to travel with. But I see it more as kind of ski holidays - the pass you pay for to slide down the mountains is also something to have pleasure with, but nothing which stays with me. And - I would not have taken a single picture with a sort of nice camera during this decade as I had to save the money for the big buy.