[davidmanze]

It's not the lens which is wrong. It's the moment to bring it out. And it's the signal "all you stupid Z buyers will have  to cross-subsidize this monster lens which only few will buy to put it in their vaults".

AFTER a standard lens line-up hit the shelves, is available and free of minor flaws, that lens could have been brought out as "one more thing".

You don't believe, dave, that Nikon is making a benefit out of it? Their margins are shrinking and by doing more of this nonsense, they deserve to disappear. It's not like Leica where also the rest of the system is up to very high standards in terms of craftsmanship. The Z bodies are made to maximize benefits and if someone calls them "cheap" I will not deny.

In terms of lenses I would be better of with Canon, sure, but in terms of lousy and outdated sensors with poor low light performance as well - and that's why I enjoy my Sigmas in front of a Nikon. The Z concept is not that bad. It's Nikon which apparently decides with a solid death wish what to come next. They already failed big time with their 1 system, could have been a competition to µ4/3, but no, unpredictable changes of features in each new model made it impossible (to me) to decide for one.

The same can be said about the Z50 - "cheap it had to be, tilt-swivel displays we had, but we leave them to Canon, Olympus and lately Fujifilm".

Again, the road-map has more gaps than a monkey fleas.

  Entering into a brand new entire system will always require patience, we knew that things would not turn up overnight..... offerings at launch were meagre ..... and while slowly getting better, there's still a long way to go .... with all the additional frustration that that incurs.
 

    Nikon's ML cameras have now split the brand ....... on the one hand the slower than expected sales of ML .... (it's all a huge failure) ........ against the primitive DSLR.

 .. and when it seemed like the ultimate DSLR camera the D850, had finally arrived, in no time at all, it gave the impression it died falling out of it's own pram, still tooth-less! .... a dead immature dinosaur .... my life already ..

 Life's a bitch and then you die!!