[Klaus]

I'm not sure whether I can agree with this assessment, Wim.

First of all - from a real-life perspective this is barely relevant. When you buy this lens you will use it at these large-aperture settings. And how high are the chances that something "busy" is surrounding your main subject? Probably very slim.

This is different with long tele lenses where the distant landscape is often not fully blurred out.

Still - I've seen better "technical" bokehs than on the RF 85mm. And not just a few.