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Yep. Fully agree.



Oh, btw: that image was shot with a 85L, wide open.



Thanks for stepping into that trap, BC. I know it was mean, and I'm sorry, but what I wanted to show is: you can find bad bokeh samples for any lens.



Your claim, that one brand in general has smoother bokeh than another is, sorry, nonsense (I've been shooting both systems long enough to know). You cannot even compare bokeh of two different lenses the way you want to unless you shoot the exact same shot with those two lenses.



With the images available out there, you can find samples to "prove" anything.



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So, play fair and give real Nikon/Canon examples from same distance and in ways comparable image content.



Same exercise for the Nikon 85mm f1.4:

Impossible, I tried to find comparable images (both in distance (size of people in frame) and busy background. but exactly found... none. Bummer.



Trying to find real comparisons, with the same scene, seems almost impossible, so it remains subjective impressions.



Photographer who uses both:

http://jpgmag.com/stories/16734



Bit useless comparsion where the bokeh is not really judgeable due to nothing going on in either detail or transitions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adQHzNfvzFM



Most useless comparison ever:

http://shashinki.com/blog/2007/06/24/nikon-af-85mm-f14d-versus-canon-ef-85mm-f12-usm-l-ii/



Or the Nikon 85mm f1.4 G and Canon 85mm f1.8:

http://neilvn.com/tangents/2010/10/26/bokeh-a-few-notes/



50 bokeh rankings by Mike Johnson (no verifiable samples, so has to be viewed as purely subjective):

http://www.lulu.com/items/volume_1/129000/129691/4/print/bokehrankings5.pdf



Whether you agree with me or not... I think the Samyang 85mm f1.4 seems to beat them all (Canon 85mm f1.2 L II, Nikon 85mm f1.4 G/D, Sigma 85mm f1.4) in terms of bokeh smoothness.



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