03-05-2011, 12:28 AM
[quote name='Martin_MM' timestamp='1299231090' post='6502']
LOL, <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> - THAT was a really nice one! <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />
You´ve made a complete idiot out of yourself, Brightcolors, LOL <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />
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But he also illustrated the point perfectly: lenses act differently under different circumstances (tree branches against the sky is a real test for any lens) and bokeh is not a constant factor.
If you primarily shoot wide open with your model (or flower, in Brightcolours' case) in the foreground, you certainly might want a very soft background bokeh - but many photographers shoot only at f/11, or they do landscapes etc. and then this bokeh issue loses relevance. Furthermore, it should not be the sole criterion for selecting a lens
Sometimes I'll even use a certain lens in a certain way to create what the wise men call 'nervous bokeh' in order to enhance an urban photo or to accentuate vertical/horizontal lines (of a building, power cables etc.).
For sure it's not scientific to say that a certain type of Bokeh is 'good' and others are 'bad' - it depends much more on what the photo requires and how well equipped the photographer is to create the look he wants.
That's why, for example,in a fashion shoot you might be wanting to actually induce some 'bad' lens flare in order to recreate that typical 1970s look (hippie chick in a field at sunset etc.).
All I can say is, thank heavens all lenses are not made by Canon (and I'm a Canon user!) - each brand has its own character and Nikon, Zeiss, Leica etc naturally produce certain lenses that are far more desirable than Canon's offerings.
LOL, <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> - THAT was a really nice one! <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />
You´ve made a complete idiot out of yourself, Brightcolors, LOL <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />
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But he also illustrated the point perfectly: lenses act differently under different circumstances (tree branches against the sky is a real test for any lens) and bokeh is not a constant factor.
If you primarily shoot wide open with your model (or flower, in Brightcolours' case) in the foreground, you certainly might want a very soft background bokeh - but many photographers shoot only at f/11, or they do landscapes etc. and then this bokeh issue loses relevance. Furthermore, it should not be the sole criterion for selecting a lens
Sometimes I'll even use a certain lens in a certain way to create what the wise men call 'nervous bokeh' in order to enhance an urban photo or to accentuate vertical/horizontal lines (of a building, power cables etc.).
For sure it's not scientific to say that a certain type of Bokeh is 'good' and others are 'bad' - it depends much more on what the photo requires and how well equipped the photographer is to create the look he wants.
That's why, for example,in a fashion shoot you might be wanting to actually induce some 'bad' lens flare in order to recreate that typical 1970s look (hippie chick in a field at sunset etc.).
All I can say is, thank heavens all lenses are not made by Canon (and I'm a Canon user!) - each brand has its own character and Nikon, Zeiss, Leica etc naturally produce certain lenses that are far more desirable than Canon's offerings.