03-07-2011, 03:05 PM
[quote name='mst' timestamp='1299507392' post='6579']
BC, you're really repeating yourself and I think we all got the message now that you don't like the bokeh of the Nikkor DX 35. I just fail to see the reason for the battle you're fighting here ... except to manifest your fan-warlord title.
As I and others said, you can find samples with unpleasant bokeh for almost any lens if you search long enough. That includes the EF 35/2.0 (and you wouldn't have to search long for this one).
However, please do me a favour and stop embedding other people's work. Links will have to do, unless you own the copyright or have permission to embed the images.
-- Markus
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Of couse you can find images with not so nice bokeh of the Canon 35mm f2, it is a 35mm lens after all. And of course you can also find images of that lens showing 5 sided highlights. That does not mean, though, that the Nikon 35mm f1.8 is not worse, bokeh wise. Look, I know you have a feeling you need to defend your brand, but it really is no secret that the nisen-bokeh of the 35mm f1.8 just is not great. ANd it is just not right to argue that it is of the same quality of the Canon 35mm f2. Then one really does not get "bokeh".
And about copyright: one does not violate copyright by linking to an image. Nor does one need permission to linking an image. Whether the link is just a link, or shows the image itself. Even copying an image (which I did not do) is allowable under normal fair use. The images I linked to I showed the source page it is linked from (the Ken Rockwell page) or used images that are allowed to link to by the makers on flickr (one can allow or not allow linking and copying of the images there).
I did not use other people's work and stated it was mine, I did not copy any work.
BC, you're really repeating yourself and I think we all got the message now that you don't like the bokeh of the Nikkor DX 35. I just fail to see the reason for the battle you're fighting here ... except to manifest your fan-warlord title.
As I and others said, you can find samples with unpleasant bokeh for almost any lens if you search long enough. That includes the EF 35/2.0 (and you wouldn't have to search long for this one).
However, please do me a favour and stop embedding other people's work. Links will have to do, unless you own the copyright or have permission to embed the images.
-- Markus
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Of couse you can find images with not so nice bokeh of the Canon 35mm f2, it is a 35mm lens after all. And of course you can also find images of that lens showing 5 sided highlights. That does not mean, though, that the Nikon 35mm f1.8 is not worse, bokeh wise. Look, I know you have a feeling you need to defend your brand, but it really is no secret that the nisen-bokeh of the 35mm f1.8 just is not great. ANd it is just not right to argue that it is of the same quality of the Canon 35mm f2. Then one really does not get "bokeh".
And about copyright: one does not violate copyright by linking to an image. Nor does one need permission to linking an image. Whether the link is just a link, or shows the image itself. Even copying an image (which I did not do) is allowable under normal fair use. The images I linked to I showed the source page it is linked from (the Ken Rockwell page) or used images that are allowed to link to by the makers on flickr (one can allow or not allow linking and copying of the images there).
I did not use other people's work and stated it was mine, I did not copy any work.