06-25-2011, 11:08 AM
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Nikon, according to rumors, is also moving in a wrong direction...
On one said they say they are aiming at the more professional side of that compact market, on the other side they are talking about 2.6-2.8x crop!
I am not sure why one would want to have such a smaller sensor compared to APS-C, one REALLY would have to hate the possibility of more shallow DOF....
Canon is apparently working on a more compact DSLR, so with mirror but a smaller body than we have no with the 1100/600D series.
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I think a lot of people are looking at EVILs with a SLR-like perspective, and I do not think that is appropriate in all cases. The existing systems like NEX and m4/3 give us a relatively big sensor, and with that comes relatively big lenses in most cases. Yes, there is a bit of reduction possible due to the shorter mount distance, but if you want a long zoom, it'll be comparable to a SLR lens. The possible size advantage of EVIL then gets strongly diminished unless you limit yourself to only smaller lenses like I have with the E-P1 and 20mm f/1.7 pancake. Basically I'm saying if the lenses are as big as a SLR, I'd rather have the SLR.
The only way you can really reduce the size of lenses significantly is by using a smaller sensor. The rumoured Nikon Pro Coolpix or whatever it will be called sounds like it might be in a sweet spot to me. Smaller sensor = smaller lenses, but without the sensor being so small you might as well get a regular compact like in the case of the Q. Yes, you will sacrifice shallow DoF ability, but I think from a compact user's perspective it would be sufficient "as is" or with a touch of software faking. Of course in Nikon's case, they already have an extensive SLR lineup if you want something more serious. Their EVIL will be aiming below that but above compacts. Sony and Olympus really don't care about eating into their low end sLR sales since they're relatively minor players.
Also there is a general trend where smaller image circle lenses seem to be more easy to make faster lenses for, which can partially offset some of the sensor contribution to DoF.
Nikon, according to rumors, is also moving in a wrong direction...
On one said they say they are aiming at the more professional side of that compact market, on the other side they are talking about 2.6-2.8x crop!
I am not sure why one would want to have such a smaller sensor compared to APS-C, one REALLY would have to hate the possibility of more shallow DOF....
Canon is apparently working on a more compact DSLR, so with mirror but a smaller body than we have no with the 1100/600D series.
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I think a lot of people are looking at EVILs with a SLR-like perspective, and I do not think that is appropriate in all cases. The existing systems like NEX and m4/3 give us a relatively big sensor, and with that comes relatively big lenses in most cases. Yes, there is a bit of reduction possible due to the shorter mount distance, but if you want a long zoom, it'll be comparable to a SLR lens. The possible size advantage of EVIL then gets strongly diminished unless you limit yourself to only smaller lenses like I have with the E-P1 and 20mm f/1.7 pancake. Basically I'm saying if the lenses are as big as a SLR, I'd rather have the SLR.
The only way you can really reduce the size of lenses significantly is by using a smaller sensor. The rumoured Nikon Pro Coolpix or whatever it will be called sounds like it might be in a sweet spot to me. Smaller sensor = smaller lenses, but without the sensor being so small you might as well get a regular compact like in the case of the Q. Yes, you will sacrifice shallow DoF ability, but I think from a compact user's perspective it would be sufficient "as is" or with a touch of software faking. Of course in Nikon's case, they already have an extensive SLR lineup if you want something more serious. Their EVIL will be aiming below that but above compacts. Sony and Olympus really don't care about eating into their low end sLR sales since they're relatively minor players.
Also there is a general trend where smaller image circle lenses seem to be more easy to make faster lenses for, which can partially offset some of the sensor contribution to DoF.
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