06-30-2011, 08:14 PM
[quote name='Klaus' timestamp='1309463131' post='9655']
However, just take the EOS 7D vs 5D II - we are talking about 1300EUR vs 1900EUR. In terms of total investments the 600EUR difference is, frankly, just "noise". If a potential 7D buyer really wanted he could afford a 5D II. Yet the 7D seems to outsell the 5D II by quite a margin - in Japan it does so by a factor of two.
I think the users just don't want to hassle with the usual FF bugs such as high vignetting and poor wide angles and, of course, the much more heavier tele lenses (at comparable FOV).
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While the sensor size is one major part of the difference between 5D2 and 7D, of course there are lots of other functional differences. If there was a hypothetical 5D mk2.5 at the same price as todays 5D2 but otherwise inherited the other features of the 7D (particularly AF and speed), I'd imagine a lot more of them would be sold. And I'd love it if they matched the pixel density of APS-C as I'd have essentially free un-crop zoom range compared to today. Side note: I wonder how the D300(s) and D700 compare since they're arguably feature wise closer to each other?
Looking at Leica M series, I can't but help think any half competent camera company could produce something similar (mirrorless, not rangefinder) for far less cost. Now they wouldn't just simply clone a M body, so would have to come up with a new system. Seeing how slowly mirrorless lenses are showing up, it would take a while to build up a system. A shortcut might be to reuse any existing full frame SLR lenses as a temporary measure, losing all the size potential there. So they probably end up thinking they might as well stick to DSLRs.
As a wild card, I wonder if there could be a lens-less body manufacturer? Hypothetically just put a full frame sensor in a box with the shortest mount distance you can get away with. Then let the user adapt any lens they want to their hearts content. Very niche perhaps, but it'll make a lot of full manual people happy.
However, just take the EOS 7D vs 5D II - we are talking about 1300EUR vs 1900EUR. In terms of total investments the 600EUR difference is, frankly, just "noise". If a potential 7D buyer really wanted he could afford a 5D II. Yet the 7D seems to outsell the 5D II by quite a margin - in Japan it does so by a factor of two.
I think the users just don't want to hassle with the usual FF bugs such as high vignetting and poor wide angles and, of course, the much more heavier tele lenses (at comparable FOV).
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While the sensor size is one major part of the difference between 5D2 and 7D, of course there are lots of other functional differences. If there was a hypothetical 5D mk2.5 at the same price as todays 5D2 but otherwise inherited the other features of the 7D (particularly AF and speed), I'd imagine a lot more of them would be sold. And I'd love it if they matched the pixel density of APS-C as I'd have essentially free un-crop zoom range compared to today. Side note: I wonder how the D300(s) and D700 compare since they're arguably feature wise closer to each other?
Looking at Leica M series, I can't but help think any half competent camera company could produce something similar (mirrorless, not rangefinder) for far less cost. Now they wouldn't just simply clone a M body, so would have to come up with a new system. Seeing how slowly mirrorless lenses are showing up, it would take a while to build up a system. A shortcut might be to reuse any existing full frame SLR lenses as a temporary measure, losing all the size potential there. So they probably end up thinking they might as well stick to DSLRs.
As a wild card, I wonder if there could be a lens-less body manufacturer? Hypothetically just put a full frame sensor in a box with the shortest mount distance you can get away with. Then let the user adapt any lens they want to their hearts content. Very niche perhaps, but it'll make a lot of full manual people happy.
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