06-30-2011, 08:58 PM
[quote name='Klaus' timestamp='1309463131' post='9655']
A sort-of-college investigated the production costs recently. He concluded production costs of less than 100$ actually and less than 20$ for an APS-C sensor.
However, just take the EOS 7D vs 5D II - we are talking about 1300EUR vs 1900EUR. In terms of total investments the 600EUR difference is, frankly, just "noise". If a potential 7D buyer really wanted he could afford a 5D II. Yet the 7D seems to outsell the 5D II by quite a margin - in Japan it does so by a factor of two.
I think the users just don't want to hassle with the usual FF bugs such as high vignetting and poor wide angles and, of course, the much more heavier tele lenses (at comparable FOV).
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Really unbelievable, those sensor costs! I have no reason not to believe you of course.
Otherwise I disagree with you. The more that I know the approxim. sensor costs now ;-).
Look, I think the absolutely TOP reason for 7D outselling 5DmkII are 1)Great AF improvements 2)costs. But the costs are the top reason between the two I believe. Lets take the following example: Imagine there were two identical cameras, lets say 7D-apsc and 7D-ff. Same features and the same price of 1400EUR (=price of current 7D). The only difference would be in sensors: one body would have 18mpx APS-C and the other 18mpx full frame. So the potential buyers could choose freely if they want or don´t want "to hassle with the usual FF bugs such as high vignetting and poor wide angles and, of course, the much more heavier tele lenses". I think despite all this most of the buyers would definitely take the full frame version...
Which leads me to the conclusion that the only reason why we dont have 1300-1500EUR FF DSLR body today is marketing bubble and artificial positioning of exclusivity (based on pure oligopoly) above all.
A sort-of-college investigated the production costs recently. He concluded production costs of less than 100$ actually and less than 20$ for an APS-C sensor.
However, just take the EOS 7D vs 5D II - we are talking about 1300EUR vs 1900EUR. In terms of total investments the 600EUR difference is, frankly, just "noise". If a potential 7D buyer really wanted he could afford a 5D II. Yet the 7D seems to outsell the 5D II by quite a margin - in Japan it does so by a factor of two.
I think the users just don't want to hassle with the usual FF bugs such as high vignetting and poor wide angles and, of course, the much more heavier tele lenses (at comparable FOV).
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Really unbelievable, those sensor costs! I have no reason not to believe you of course.
Otherwise I disagree with you. The more that I know the approxim. sensor costs now ;-).
Look, I think the absolutely TOP reason for 7D outselling 5DmkII are 1)Great AF improvements 2)costs. But the costs are the top reason between the two I believe. Lets take the following example: Imagine there were two identical cameras, lets say 7D-apsc and 7D-ff. Same features and the same price of 1400EUR (=price of current 7D). The only difference would be in sensors: one body would have 18mpx APS-C and the other 18mpx full frame. So the potential buyers could choose freely if they want or don´t want "to hassle with the usual FF bugs such as high vignetting and poor wide angles and, of course, the much more heavier tele lenses". I think despite all this most of the buyers would definitely take the full frame version...
Which leads me to the conclusion that the only reason why we dont have 1300-1500EUR FF DSLR body today is marketing bubble and artificial positioning of exclusivity (based on pure oligopoly) above all.