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Forums > Back > Next PZ lens test report: 1 Nikkor VR 10-30mm f/3.5-5.6
#1
So, here we go, the first Nikon CX review. The basic kit zoom is a solid performer with no real weaknesses:



http://www.opticallimits.com/nikon1/699-1nikon10303556v1



-- Markus
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#2
Not bad but, In this way, you cannot have an idea of the line that a v1 camera with a 10-30 lens is capable of..., It's a backward step for me.
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#3
Why not show resolution data just as M43's? That will show a resolution potential of different systems, though can not be compared directly..
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#4
[quote name='mousefire' timestamp='1321778571' post='13049']

Why not show resolution data just as M43's? That will show a resolution potential of different systems, though can not be compared directly..

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Because the LW/PH numbers have often been used for direct comparisons, even though we clearly stated that this is invalid. And in addition: because the numbers we publish have wrongly been accused, in one case even publicly by a competing site, to be invalid.



-- Markus
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#5
I had a look at the j1/V1 a few weeks ago and they look nice. Shame about the prices though.



Not sure if this is old news but below is a link which helps explain why these cameras and lenses are so expensive.

http://micgadget.com/17011/nikon-mirrorless-cameras-are-made-in-china/





And an extract:



"Once final assembly is complete each lens is checked and tested against large black and white test charts that adorn the walls, before passing on to quality assurance and the packaging section."
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#6
[quote name='Studor13' timestamp='1321781511' post='13051']

I had a look at the j1/V1 a few weeks ago and they look nice. Shame about the prices though.



Not sure if this is old news but below is a link which helps explain why these cameras and lenses are so expensive.

http://micgadget.com/17011/nikon-mirrorless-cameras-are-made-in-china/





And an extract:



"Once final assembly is complete each lens is checked and tested against large black and white test charts that adorn the walls, before passing on to quality assurance and the packaging section."

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Final assembly of almost all cameras requires large amounts of manual labor. only parts manufacturing is automatic, such as board printing, lens grinding etc. Assembled products have also to be tested and calibrated before shipment. To what extent the NIkon1 factory makes greater use of manual labour or executes more stringent testing than other manufacturer is not descirbed in the article. The author was only subjectivly impressed by the manufacturing process. Thus, the article doesnt support an argument whether or not manufacturing costs of the nikon one models are indeed higher than those of comparable models from other manufacturers.

one could only guess that the higher costs maybe due to better materials or a more complex construction of the camera itself or unique features which require more manual labour in the assembly or simply because Nion can charge more because of brand (there was a poll last week in the US according to which US consumers are prepared to pay more for a nikon brand camera than for other brands) .
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#7
[quote name='mousefire' timestamp='1321778571' post='13049']

Why not show resolution data just as M43's? That will show a resolution potential of different systems, though can not be compared directly..

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Because the LW/PHs cannot be used to compare the potential as well. Different RAW converter(-versions) produce different LW/PHs.



We could continue to publish the old system but technically this is absolutely pointless. There is simply no loss of information.
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#8
[quote name='mst' timestamp='1321751762' post='13047']

So, here we go, the first Nikon CX review. The basic kit zoom is a solid performer with no real weaknesses:



http://www.opticallimits.com/nikon1/699-1nikon10303556v1



-- Markus

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Markus, thanks for the review.

About the VR performance, could it be caused by the shutter? you have started leaning towards this explanation with your electronic shutter test but it would be interesting if you could go further and analyze the blur pattern. At the moment, there is quite some heat on newer panasonic x lenses on fora with clear evidence of such issue - a nervous double image. The first olympus mft 14-42 also suffered from this. All these lenses have in common a very small build with a collabsible design and very lightweight structures.



to think engineers would have missed that??



Greetings,

S.
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#9
Thank you for the test. Some real numbers would have allowed us to compare the system with the loads of D200 data you already have (Both 10 Mp, 3:2). I had to go to the pictures to do this, and it seems to compare quite well. It's fuzzy in the corners at 10 mm (definitely not "very good"), but there are plenty of wide-angle primes that have that defect.
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#10
[quote name='Sylvain' timestamp='1321784522' post='13054']

At the moment, there is quite some heat on newer panasonic x lenses on fora with clear evidence of such issue - a nervous double image.[/quote]



A recent firmware update has reportedly settled the "double image" issue. Still, it appears that IS techniques, at least for the smaller and more light weight systems/lenses may not prevent (or even cause?) softness in defined ranges of shutter speeds. It may well be that this is in part due to vibrations from the shutter. Hence, an electronic shutter would present (a part of) the solution.
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