[quote name='mst' timestamp='1299360541' post='6543']
Not sure if I can see such an effect directly, since I measure at 3 spots only. Maybe the DX measurement will give some indication.
A similar thing might be present in the AF-S 35. The lens shows surprisingly poor border and corner performance on the D7000 (at large apertures).
-- Markus
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mm, OK. I find what you are saying a bit disturbing (about the 35 AF-S)... These lenses have been constructed primamrily for full frame use but still... Lets see what 85mm 1.4G shows, I cant wait.
03-07-2011, 01:03 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-07-2011, 01:03 PM by mst.)
[quote name='Martin_MM' timestamp='1299366638' post='6545']
Lets see what 85mm 1.4G shows, I cant wait.
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Looks good so far.
At least that's the words I would choose as a reviewer.
If you asked the other guy in me, the passionate fast glass shooter, my answer would probably be more like: Wohoo! This thing rocks! <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' />
Even despite its ugly bokeh <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='  ' />
-- Markus
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[quote name='mst' timestamp='1299503002' post='6575']
Looks good so far.
At least that's the words I would choose as a reviewer.
If you asked the other guy in me, the passionate fast glass shooter, my answer would probably be more like: Wohoo! This thing rocks! <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' />
Even despite its ugly bokeh <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' />
-- Markus
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OK, so publish it ASAP please, this is pure teasing... <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='  ' />
BTW, again... I expect total contradiction with the "optyczne.pl/lenstip.com" site which rated the 85/1.4G (below)average... That´s wierd:
http://www.optyczne.pl/201.4-Test_obiektywu-Nikon_Nikkor_AF-S_85_mm_f_1.4G_Rozdzielczo%C5%9B%C4%87_obrazu.html
[quote name='Martin_MM' timestamp='1299507378' post='6578']
OK, so publish it ASAP please, this is pure teasing... <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' />
BTW, again... I expect total contradiction with the "optyczne.pl/lenstip.com" site which rated the 85/1.4G (below)average... That´s wierd:
http://www.optyczne.pl/201.4-Test_obiektywu-Nikon_Nikkor_AF-S_85_mm_f_1.4G_Rozdzielczo%C5%9B%C4%87_obrazu.html
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Lenstip did not rate the Nikon 85mm f1.4 G below average...
The say that on one hand, wide open, it does not do better than the $300 Samyang, and that is for a $1700 lens (not strange, the Samyang is a very impressive lens).
They continue to say that stopping down it becomes sharper than other 85mm's the tested, and that its astigmatism correction is sensational. Also the comment on the good build quality and silent and efficient AF.
All in all a very favorable conclusion, they just wished it was a bit cheaper.
[quote name='Brightcolours' timestamp='1299510856' post='6582']
Lenstip did not rate the Nikon 85mm f1.4 G below average...
The say that on one hand, wide open, it does not do better than the $300 Samyang, and that is for a $1700 lens (not strange, the Samyang is a very impressive lens).
They continue to say that stopping down it becomes sharper than other 85mm's the tested, and that its astigmatism correction is sensational. Also the comment on the good build quality and silent and efficient AF.
All in all a very favorable conclusion, they just wished it was a bit cheaper.
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You are right, the lens was not classified as "below average", I exaggerated that.
But don´t take my comment literally, please.
I meant the measured resolution (by them) was just average (i.e. in the range that is of most interest here - f1.4-f2.0), nothing exceptional
(which is what Markus suggested here). Esp.the central resolution at f1.4-f2.0 has no "wow" factor (compared to Canon 85L for instance) by their measurement. Being an update of 85/f1.4D, which was famous esp.for its central sharpness (and too blurry corners, too), one would expect better performance in the latest 1.4G here.
Lets see and compare the data from Photozone.de. Im really curious.
[quote name='Martin_MM' timestamp='1299507378' post='6578']
OK, so publish it ASAP please, this is pure teasing... <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=' ' />
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It'll take a few more days, I'm afraid.
However, in the meantime, here are a few sample images I snapped today:
http://photozone.smugmug.com/Reviews/afs8514gfx
-- Markus
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[quote name='mst' timestamp='1299526679' post='6585']
It'll take a few more days, I'm afraid.
However, in the meantime, here are a few sample images I snapped today:
http://photozone.smugmug.com/Reviews/afs8514gfx
-- Markus
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OMG, this lens is crazy sharp, I count f1.4 into that too! Can´t believe what I am seeing! I´m going to buy it in all probability.
Do you think I can place my order on-line or would it be worth it to go somewhere where they have more copies of the lens and check for sample variations (at f1.4) ?
Anyway, Markus - thanks a lot for this and all the pre-review communication in forums, I appreciate that (and dont want to abuse it...).
Yep, it's sharp straight from f/1.4.
Where are you located, Martin? If you're somewhere in Europe, we might be able to work something out, the lens will need to find a new home after the reviews.
If you're interested, feel free to contact me by mail, the adress can be found here:
http://www.opticallimits.com/impressum
I also just uploaded sample images from the Sigma 85/1.4 EX. Except for the heavy coma issue mentioned in another thread already, it's also a pretty good lens:
http://photozone.smugmug.com/Reviews/ex8514hsmfx
-- Markus
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[quote name='Martin_MM' timestamp='1299514405' post='6584']
Esp.the central resolution at f1.4-f2.0 has no "wow" factor (compared to Canon 85L for instance) by their measurement.
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The 85 1.2L II has better center resolution at f/1.2 than the 84 1.4G wide open:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/genotypewriter/5057691550
[quote name='Martin_MM' timestamp='1299514405' post='6584']
Being an update of 85/f1.4D, which was famous esp.for its central sharpness (and too blurry corners, too), one would expect better performance in the latest 1.4G here.
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Sure the 85 1.4D was sharper in the center than in the corners but the question is, was it sharper than the rest? <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='  ' />
The "latest 1.4G" doesn't mean anything other than a built-in motor. For example it took Nikon 35 years to develop their 24 1.4 and here's how it compares to the 24 1.4L II:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/genotypewriter/4698284415
The 35G's worse, but I haven't had time to publish my results yet.
GTW
03-08-2011, 09:58 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-08-2011, 09:59 AM by mst.)
Interesting that your results completely contradict mine ...
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