07-07-2011, 05:11 PM
[quote name='PuxaVida' timestamp='1310047337' post='9797']
Maybe not only the price... Surely the back-illuminated CMOS has it's strengths, but the sensor could be a bit bigger for a better IQ I think. OK the camera is tiny, bu who needs that much small camera, as long as one cannot put it in his/her pocket (because of an interchangable lens mount).
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I don't see pocketability as an all or nothing affair. It is more like a statistical distribution. I carry the E-P1 with pancake on it in coat pocket for example, but I'd want something smaller if I didn't have the coat.
The sensor I think can deliver more than you think. My recent usage of the Sony HX9V which I believe has near enough the same size sensor has surprised me in what it can put out. If the Q has RAW output I think the advanced photographer can do very well out of it, coupled with suitably fast lenses of course.
To me, the biggest barrier for the Q has to be the price. Right now, you'd have to really want one to get one, and I'm not sure anyone does. In my opinion, it needs a street price on the lower end of existing mirrorless system cameras. I don't think in this case the physical size is enough of a selling point to demand a significant premium.
[quote name='Vieux loup' timestamp='1310048720' post='9799']
I think the X100 takes market share from the mirrorless market, but who knows exactly. With respect to the Q price, I believe it will be somewhat like the D7000, that started out at the level of a D300s and know is 25% less expensive! We shall see!
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Are some people buying the X100 instead of current mirrorless system cameras? Probably. But I don't see the X100 in itself as sustained competition. It is a one-off, and Fuji can't sit on it.
As for price drops, they are almost inevitable. But if you start too high like the Q or SD1, I don't think it could drop enough to gain traction.
Maybe not only the price... Surely the back-illuminated CMOS has it's strengths, but the sensor could be a bit bigger for a better IQ I think. OK the camera is tiny, bu who needs that much small camera, as long as one cannot put it in his/her pocket (because of an interchangable lens mount).
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I don't see pocketability as an all or nothing affair. It is more like a statistical distribution. I carry the E-P1 with pancake on it in coat pocket for example, but I'd want something smaller if I didn't have the coat.
The sensor I think can deliver more than you think. My recent usage of the Sony HX9V which I believe has near enough the same size sensor has surprised me in what it can put out. If the Q has RAW output I think the advanced photographer can do very well out of it, coupled with suitably fast lenses of course.
To me, the biggest barrier for the Q has to be the price. Right now, you'd have to really want one to get one, and I'm not sure anyone does. In my opinion, it needs a street price on the lower end of existing mirrorless system cameras. I don't think in this case the physical size is enough of a selling point to demand a significant premium.
[quote name='Vieux loup' timestamp='1310048720' post='9799']
I think the X100 takes market share from the mirrorless market, but who knows exactly. With respect to the Q price, I believe it will be somewhat like the D7000, that started out at the level of a D300s and know is 25% less expensive! We shall see!
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Are some people buying the X100 instead of current mirrorless system cameras? Probably. But I don't see the X100 in itself as sustained competition. It is a one-off, and Fuji can't sit on it.
As for price drops, they are almost inevitable. But if you start too high like the Q or SD1, I don't think it could drop enough to gain traction.
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