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Im an EOS beginner and need a Canon...
#1
What model should i buy ?

Used or new ?

I dont want to spend so much but i will try to get a camera and i need you guys to help me. Sorry but im not that good in English <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' /> .I've heard that the (XSi) is good or the right camera for photography as a beginner, so im thinking about the 12 MP but i really dont know if i could get the T1i or XSi..so if u could please tell me...thx!
#2
Please give us some more info: What is your budget? Do you want to take any particular type of photographs? Such as sports, landscapes, or just a little of everything.



And welcome to the forum.
#3
[quote name='Fnen' timestamp='1319436070' post='12446']

What model should i buy ?

Used or new ?

I dont want to spend so much but i will try to get a camera and i need you guys to help me. Sorry but im not that good in English <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' /> .I've heard that the (XSi) is good or the right camera for photography as a beginner, so im thinking about the 12 MP but i really dont know if i could get the T1i or XSi..so if u could please tell me...thx!

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The XSi/450D is a good camera, but it has two niggles. The noise performance (especially in darker and OOF parts) is better in newer models (T1i/500D, T2i/550D, T3i/600D, XS/1000D, and 1100D). And the 18-55 IS kitlens that came with the kit version often did not focus accurately with the camera, so be sure to check that (in wide angle mostly).



The 450D has a nice live view implementation already. Personally I would prefer the 550D for its better higher ISO noise profile. I have the 450D myself, by the way.



Have you thought about lenses yet? They very much influence what photos look like, more than a different body.
#4
[quote name='Brightcolours' timestamp='1319445084' post='12449']

The XSi/450D is a good camera, but it has two niggles. The noise performance (especially in darker and OOF parts) is better in newer models (T1i/500D, T2i/550D, T3i/600D, XS/1000D, and 1100D). And the 18-55 IS kitlens that came with the kit version often did not focus accurately with the camera, so be sure to check that (in wide angle mostly).



The 450D has a nice live view implementation already. Personally I would prefer the 550D for its better higher ISO noise profile. I have the 450D myself, by the way.



Have you thought about lenses yet? They very much influence what photos look like, more than a different body.

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Yeah i have heard about the noise performance of the XSi and i think i will need it most at night (NightClub Life) you know, so im thinking to get the T1i because of that. I know lenses its an important thing but i didnt know about that of the 18-55 IS kit...So that lens works properly with the T1i?, because if i use it with an external flash i think i would be getting great pictures...tell me what u think plz and thxs a lot...
#5
[quote name='Bryan Conner' timestamp='1319442464' post='12448']

Please give us some more info: What is your budget? Do you want to take any particular type of photographs? Such as sports, landscapes, or just a little of everything.



And welcome to the forum.

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My budget its not very high. Id like to take a little of everything, BUT, i will be using it most at NightClub Life, so thats indoor and u know its very dark sometimes, and yes, i will buy an external flash to get better results.
#6
Personally, I would want to have better high ISO performance if I were going to be shooting a lot in a Night Club. One reason is that if I could make the shot without a flash, I would do so. Another reason is that if I had to use a flash, the higher ISO may shorten my flash recycle time and lengthen the flash battery life. Also, high iso performance would enable me to get a better balance of flash and ambient light in my shots...therefore retaining more of the colorful nightclub lights in the background instead of a full blast flash shot . Besides, not using a flash in a Night Club would seem to be a plus to me.



Take what I say with a grain of salt though, I have never shot in a Nightclub. But, I did shoot weddings (and nighttime football) for several years and good high iso performance often meant the difference between a keeper and a delete.



Brightcolors has already hit on the importance of lenses in your decision. I would also add that a fast lens will often improve your chances of auto focus really nailing the focus in low light situations...more light is allowed to reach the af sensors with a f2.8 lens attached compared to an f4 lens for example. I am not really up to date on the current crop of cameras, but I imagine the advantage of a fast lens concerning auto focus still applies. If I am wrong, I am sure those in the know will chime in.
#7
[quote name='Bryan Conner' timestamp='1319546358' post='12478']

Personally, I would want to have better high ISO performance if I were going to be shooting a lot in a Night Club. One reason is that if I could make the shot without a flash, I would do so. Another reason is that if I had to use a flash, the higher ISO may shorten my flash recycle time and lengthen the flash battery life. Also, high iso performance would enable me to get a better balance of flash and ambient light in my shots...therefore retaining more of the colorful nightclub lights in the background instead of a full blast flash shot . Besides, not using a flash in a Night Club would seem to be a plus to me.



Take what I say with a grain of salt though, I have never shot in a Nightclub. But, I did shoot weddings (and nighttime football) for several years and good high iso performance often meant the difference between a keeper and a delete.



Brightcolors has already hit on the importance of lenses in your decision. I would also add that a fast lens will often improve your chances of auto focus really nailing the focus in low light situations...more light is allowed to reach the af sensors with a f2.8 lens attached compared to an f4 lens for example. I am not really up to date on the current crop of cameras, but I imagine the advantage of a fast lens concerning auto focus still applies. If I am wrong, I am sure those in the know will chime in.

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I used to shoot with a PowerShot S3 IS in NightClubs, Even theres different lights moving around u cant have a good shot of people without a flash, so i prefer to use an external flash with the Lightsphere or another one of those diffusers around the market. And YES!, ISO its very important in this caase.



What do you think if i buy an used (T1i)+ (18-55)Kit, from a guy...he has been using it almost one year and its in good conditions and the price is $450.... so i thinking of that one...ur recommendation plz and thank u !!
#8
[quote name='Fnen' timestamp='1319572566' post='12484']

I used to shoot with a PowerShot S3 IS in NightClubs, Even theres different lights moving around u cant have a good shot of people without a flash, so i prefer to use an external flash with the Lightsphere or another one of those diffusers around the market. And YES!, ISO its very important in this caase.



What do you think if i buy an used (T1i)+ (18-55)Kit, from a guy...he has been using it almost one year and its in good conditions and the price is $450.... so i thinking of that one...ur recommendation plz and thank u !!

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Well, it seems like the complaints for misfocussing died after the 450D/18-55 IS, the 500D being a less picky partner for it. It probably is doable with that lens and an external flash, on the right flash mode which allows for ambient light to make photos look nice. But lenses that open wider would be candidates too. I am not an expert in any sense in the field of photography you are into.. so I can oot advice you very well.



I just know that with 3rd party zoom lenses you have to be aware with some incompatibility with flash (lenses don't always report thee correct info. But maybe that is a thing of the past (in case you would be looking at a tamron or sigma f2.8 zoom later on).
#9
Sounds like a good deal on the T1i and lens. I would buy it and save for a future purchase of a better/faster lens. At $450, you may be able to use it yourself for a few months and sell it for close to what you paid if you decide to upgrade. This is based on the prices for used kits on Amazon.com. Go for it.
#10
[quote name='Bryan Conner' timestamp='1319604558' post='12497']

Sounds like a good deal on the T1i and lens. I would buy it and save for a future purchase of a better/faster lens. At $450, you may be able to use it yourself for a few months and sell it for close to what you paid if you decide to upgrade. This is based on the prices for used kits on Amazon.com. Go for it.

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Thank you very much Bryan !!take care.
  


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