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#11
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on whether re-introducing existing features in a lower priced camera can be considered as innovation.
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#12
What is "promising" in my dictionary is not always "innovation". I believe that "improvement" can sometimes satisfy the consumers if it's done wisely:



- Sensor resolution and A/D converter technology: The new one is 16.2 MP in DX format, with new EXPEED2 which promises less noise (thanks god beginning from ISO level 100) and better color reproduction with 14 bit A/D converter.

- AF technolgy & metering: new RGB sensor with finer resolution and with 39 AF points (various AF point selection modes)

- Improved auto WB (which was awful in D90)

- ISO 100 - 6400: This is the one I'm most curious about. I'm not expecting a D700 or D3S performance of course. But using ISO greater than 1000 without a disturbing noise level would be an achievement.

- 100% viewfinder

- A rigit & solid body with weather resistance.

- Double card usage



I think the dissatisfaction of DX users in this manner will be more deserved after the new D300x is announced. What will be newer than D7000 is a big question mark to me.



Anyway, coming back to D7000; I personally believe that these all are significant & most important improvement areas for a DSLR body (at least in Nikon DSLR world) . Hence, I believe that D7000 is promising for a DX user. What is disappointing for me is, that Nikon still does nothing concerning the pro-sumer FX bodies. Still no news for an affordable new FX body!... To be more precise, where's the D700x?



Kind regards,



Serkan
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#13
We can discuss whether the attention the D7000 receives is well deserved or not for some time still, but the fact is that it does and the general photo public gives it 4 times as much attention on the web as the 60D, only the FX100 comes anywhere close, ref the poll on the front page of DPReview. Obviously Nikon has caught something the public wanted. Whether some of us think it is cold coffee is not very relevant. Look for the price to go down towards 1000€ within 6 months (or for the D300s to be upgraded, thereby justifying a price increase on it to mark the difference. Right now the 2 cameras are selling for the same price. For what its worth I put my vote in with Markus, Serkan and #7. Kindly Vieux Loup
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#14
I'm afraid the only thing that can push Nikon into delivering an "affordable" FF SLR is.. Canon delivering such SLR in first place, assuming Nikon can secure or produce themselves a suitable sensor at the right (lower) price. Other than that, why would they want to cut the branch on which they are sitting that is, cannibalizing sales of D3x/D3s or future pro (high margin) models ?



As for the D7000 I am really looking forward to get one <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' /> ..at least to test drive it for a day or two, and if it delivers in terms of IQ I will not mind it beeing evolutionary rather than revolutionary. We have seen the D300 surpass the D2xs in IQ and AF performance, so it might as well happen that the D7000 comes to be a decent improvement over the D300s now.. Time will tell, soon.. <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' />
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#15
Nikon already has an affordable FF DSLR, the D700. Just like Canon has the 5D.

It is at this point in time very expensive to produce fullframe sized sensors, so I doubt we are going to see fullframe camera's that are a lot cheaper.
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#16
[quote name='Brightcolours' timestamp='1285439315' post='3227']

AF in video according to me is a not very worthwhile exercise in DSLR video. The Canons do offer AF in video mode, though. But yes... best left unused, due to the shallow DOF. Unless you are not after quality video results... for *don't make me watch it please* homevideos watched on birthdays AF in DSLR video might seem appealing. brr.[/quote]

AF the speed in video on DSLR with the speed of AF for photo would be fantastic. I wonder if anyone will do what Fujifilm did with a compact and put phase detect in the sensor so you get fast AF while using it.
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#17
Qadn, some just expect a "more" affordable FF then the D700/5D and in this context, look at Sony's 900/850 models <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' /> If Sony can do it, question is who will be next and at what price point ? We all hear how expensive it is to produce FF sensors etc. whether it is true I don't know, besides, looking at fast lenses it would seem glass has become a scarse commodity these days as well <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' /> What I mean is that if there's business in it for Canon/Nikon/etc - it will eventually happen.. <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' />
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#18
@wojtt: the A850 / A900 are about the same price as a D700 and 5DII.

I am not seeing that much a difference really in terms of price.



Note that the resolution of the sensor has almost no impact on the production costs, it is purely a matter of the surface area of the sensor.
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#19
@ quadn : Well, I've seen here a 25-28% difference with Sony undercutting the two big guys, and I guess it'a a conception, even if flawed, that for a prosumer price you get roughly the equivalent of a D3X that stirs the emotions <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' /> Anyways I wonder why is it that Sony is lagging so much in terms of SLR sales, behind Canon and Nikon, maybe it's just that they were too late to the party, for most photogs the cost of swapping the whole system is just too much.. I didn't know though that the sensor resolution has no real impact on it's price <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' />
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#20
[quote name='Alexander ' timestamp='1285606428' post='3297']

AF the speed in video on DSLR with the speed of AF for photo would be fantastic. I wonder if anyone will do what Fujifilm did with a compact and put phase detect in the sensor so you get fast AF while using it.

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There is nothing wonderful about fast AF speed during video... People tend to think about tracking a subject... but that is not what focus in movies is about. And imagine what film usually is about... a scene with a subject or more than one subject moving in it, it is the scene that needs to be in stable focus, not the characters moving in it. Watch a few movies to understand focus and video.



Wishing for fast AF for video seems to be a tech geek wish, not a video/film makers wish.
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