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Sony A33, A55
#31
The A55 is of course the better camera, but as an A2 user I can vouch that the camera offers superb ergonomics (best hand grip ever, perfectly located dual dials etc), and that its tilting EVF is not only unique but also extremely useful. It would be nice if the A77 copies both features. Then we'll have a true A2 replacement.
#32
[quote name='Klaus' timestamp='1282763806' post='2165']

Where's the difference between video and still here ? If anything it should be even better for stills.

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In normal 3fps mode it is ok. But the AF tracking system is not very good, it seems to lack any predictive quality so it is slow for AF tracking.



Its 6fps and 10fps modes are crappy. You lose the live view, and instead get a slideshow what has been. Also, you have to shoot with lenses wide open (smallest allowed f-value is f3.5). And on top of that, the exposure will be totally automatic (well it has to be, when you don't have any control over aperture).



Quite a lot of problems still, in its implementation.



The IQ is quite good, in RAW the performance seems to match that of a Canon EOS 50D or Nikon D300.

One problem though (that Canon avoided with the 1 N RT): the thick mirror reflects light, which causes ghosts of light image areas just under those areas. A bit like ghost lights caused by "protective filters" at night (but those are mirrored through the optic axis).



While the IDEA behind AF in video in a DSLR seems nice, it does not really work (in my opinion). In camcorders that is fine, if you are making homevideos. But with a DSLR the DOF is small. And the Sony's need the aperture to be open in order to shoot with AF (f3.5 or bigger). So as viewer you keep on seeing the camera AF, not very attractive. Camcorders have much bigger DOF.



And besides that, there are not many SSM lenses in the Sony line-up.



To me, it seems the A33/55 seem to be a (nice) idea, but an idea that has not been thought through enough.
#33
Rebuttal to the points raised above (by Brightcolours) can be found in this post:



http://forum.photozone.de/index.php?/top...#entry2288
#34
[quote name='boren' timestamp='1283254278' post='2362']

Rebuttal to the points raised above (by Brightcolours) can be found in this post:



http://forum.photozone.de/index.php?/top...#entry2288

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They are not a "rebuttal" in any way.



The only thing it is is you saying "but I do not care". That is fine, that you do not care, everybody has their own standards and wishes.



Since my points are facts, they can not be rebutted.



rebut |riˈbət|

verb ( -butted , -butting ) [ trans. ]

1 claim or prove that (evidence or an accusation) is false : he had to rebut charges of acting for the convenience of his political friends.

2 archaic drive back or repel (a person or attack).



Nothing I wrote is false.



About the ghosting issue:



Even at very downsized images it still is an issue. I downsized it to 1152x765 pixels, and unless London has every light with a smaller backup light under it, this does illustrate very well the light ghosting problem, akin to ghosts caused by "protective filters".



[Image: 57E737430D004F3ABA7EC78C44CCC748.jpg]



Whether or not YOU care about it is another matter, that is personal. But it is at least as big a problem as the Canon EOS 5D mkII black dot problem, which has been addressed via a firmware update. That black dot problem was perceived as a big deal.
#35
[quote name='Brightcolours' timestamp='1283257693' post='2363']

They are not a "rebuttal" in any way.



The only thing it is is you saying "but I do not care".[/quote]



Feel free to quote all the points in the linked post and actually reply to them this time. You'll see that the vast majority of what I wrote does not fall into the "I do not care" category. I replied in detail to all the points that you raised and explained where exactly you are wrong (hence the rebuttal), but you chose the easy route, ignored my reply and posted the same points again in this thread. Better luck next time.



Oh, I suggest that you post the above picture in that thread (among your reply to the other points). Let's keep the discussion in one place. I assure you that I will reply to this point too.
#36
Hello Brightcolours



Do you have used the A55 your self for a longer time period?
#37
[quote name='Marco' timestamp='1283260894' post='2366']

Hello Brightcolours



Do you have used the A55 your self for a longer time period?

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No, why do you ask?
#38
[quote name='Brightcolours' timestamp='1283261385' post='2367']

No, why do you ask?

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Because it sounds like you have.
#39
[quote name='Marco' timestamp='1283267119' post='2371']

Because it sounds like you have.

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It does? Strange, I do not remember having said that I had, or even hinted at that.



I know what you are trying to drive at... "one can not have an opinion without having used equipment".

Then ask yourself why you visit a website like photozone.de....
#40
[quote name='Yakim' timestamp='1283244574' post='2357']

That's a very big twist in my book. Oh, and the sensor is slightly larger as well. <img src='http://forum.photozone.de/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />



http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/AA55/AA55A.HTM

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My point was more towards that the technology used for this camera was being used by Minolta, which of course, Sony purchased their camera division. Minolta was dabling with the split image concepts interchangable lens cameras for some time. Though, I don't recall if it ever made it to market, or it did and suffered other constraints (over priced?).



I enjoyed my A2. My biggest complaint was noise and iso. I'd probably still own it if it shot clean up to iso 400 and OK at 800. Still, it handled nice, decent 28-200 lens, built in stabilization, built in ability to use a remote flash, swivel evf, and lcd, etc. If they would release a modern version of this (w/better upper iso performance), I would get one as my grab and go camera.
  
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