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Full frame digital vs large format film plus some equivalence talk...
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(10-07-2019, 12:39 PM)thxbb12 Wrote:
(10-07-2019, 06:46 AM)JJ_SO Wrote:
(10-05-2019, 09:39 AM)Klaus Wrote: A bokeh is "fake" already - because the human eye doesn't produce one - at least none that you are aware of. ;-)

I, for one, have no fundamental issues with an artificial bokeh. Quality-wise it should easily surpass the "real" ones - e.g. no distorted highlights at the image borders (which I consider to be quite distracting really), perfectly even discs and no nisen bokeh. It should also be easily possible to add slight defects in order to avoid plastic looks.

That again is a solid bs coming from a LENS tester. Are you testing eyes or smartphone camera with AI? Because if you don‘t care about the differences 
M then why testing at all? All lenses deliver some kind of a picture, who cares about the differences?

Photography produces a lot of images the human eye isn‘t capable of to see with a single look, or resp. the brain isn‘t able to process quick or slow enough. That was one of the reasons photography became an invention with a wide spread use today.

Apparently you like to forget that over and over again. Few of your posts contain this „who cares anyway” message. If you’re bored by what you’re doing than why do it?

I don’t care wether you can/want live with artificial bokeh. it makes your verdict about bokeh less believable but since it’s a matter of taste anyway... True, lots of your sample pictures could be made with a smartphone, no? So, why bothering with lens tests anymore? Where’s the fun in that, if one can just buy a 1200$ smartphone and gets it done easier? Well, because until today this remains a lie. There still are huge gaps between what smartphones can do and what cameras and lenses are capable of.

Unfortunately the gap will narrow extremely fast.
Computing photography is only at its infancy. I don't like it one bit, but that's the sad truth. The days of system cameras are counted (except for some very specific niche needs).

I fully agree with  thxbb12 and  Klaus, but I did not want to disturb BC & JJ_SO party :-)
Yes, the system camera niche will be small and will not have any purpose.  Something like mechanical Swiss watches, their time is not accurate but "Real"
How does it look like for most of the world
1. Still sinking camera business
http://www.cipa.jp/stats/documents/e/dw-201908_e.pdf
2. Apple 11 is making another record sales.
  


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RE: Full frame digital vs large format film plus some equivalence talk... - by miro - 10-07-2019, 02:43 PM

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