[Rover]

Yeah, I get that the 10-17 was a Pentax derivative, but it's still marketed as Tokina and frankly, as a consumer rather than a historian, I could not care less what kind of cross-pollination had happened there. I think it was a good thing, allowing some designs that would've otherwise remained available only to Pentax users to find their way into other systems. Besides, I'm a sucker for weird lenses, that's why a load of odd stuff had gone through my camera bag(s), and some remained there (like that Sigma 14mm that nobody except the abovementioned Petteri Sulonen had ever spared a kind word for). So why not the Tokinas? (I also entertained the thought of getting their 100mm macro to dip my feet into that realm without spending too much, but, like a 85mm lens, macros are something I always talk about but never get to buy for one reason or the other).