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5DMKIII versus 7DMKII
Quote:More than once I was playing with this idea, Ayoh. I just think, I'll wait for one or two iterations and meanwhile borrow an A7RII to make my own practical view. I read too much about quirky interface, but I know, the longer I wait, the less money I get for my DSLR gear.

 

There's a bit uncertainty about the differences of A7II, A7SII and A7RII - except the "high ISO" and "high resolution" as main feature I really don't get the point, how the additional character in the name is worth double the price of a A7II. 

 

Poor battery performance, knowledge of a 4 million dots resolving EVF (in a Leica) make me hesitate. Also, I don't think, Nikon will not answer sooner or later the Sony threat although it's probably a different mount on a Nikon FF mirrorless.

 

Meanwhile I'll make my first mirrorless system steps with a little Fuji and two lenses as I always wanted to have something much lighter than DSLR but at comparable Quality level.
 

I agree that the A7Rii is quite overpriced and I don't see either how it is worth the premium price over the A7ii/s. I think Sony is just seeing what price they can get away with in the market and unfortunately it seems they are selling well even at this price. 

 

With regards to the difference between the A7s and A7rii, despite what some commentators say about high ISO performance being similar, there is a claer advantage to the A7s. Although the noise level in lighter tones may be similar between the two (as this is limited by shot noise) the A7s has noticeably lower read noise in the shadows. This means that there is a higher DR at high ISO which allows for greater file latitude and editing. I would rate this DR advantage at high ISO to the A7s at approximately 2 stops.

The secondary benefits are the higher EVF sensitivity in low light and of course best in class video.

 

With regards to the EVF resolution I am not convinced more pixels will make the image that much better. The resolution is already quite high and pixelation is not noticeable. The consequence could be even lower battery life due to the associated higher data throughput. 

 

With regards to the Fuji, I guess if you can get it significantly cheaper than the Sony a7s then it might be attractive, however you might not find it that satisfying as you will be stepping back in sensor size, video quality, low light sensitivity. My advice remains to get the A7s (mark 1) if you find a good price. BTW I managed to get one a brand new one year ago for about $1600 AUD (1000 euro) at a time of cumulative sales and promos. Similarly I picked up the 55mm Zony for about $600 (400 euro). As such the price can be very attractive at certain times of the year. OK I will stop with this promotion lest I am taken for a Sony fanboy (which I am not and can also write some criticism of their cameras).
  


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5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by toni-a - 12-16-2015, 07:28 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by thxbb12 - 12-16-2015, 08:35 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-16-2015, 09:01 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by joachim - 12-16-2015, 09:05 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Brightcolours - 12-16-2015, 09:07 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by joachim - 12-16-2015, 09:49 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Klaus - 12-16-2015, 10:30 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by JJ_SO - 12-16-2015, 11:29 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by thxbb12 - 12-16-2015, 04:38 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Brightcolours - 12-16-2015, 08:26 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by toni-a - 12-16-2015, 08:57 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Ayoh - 12-17-2015, 03:52 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by JJ_SO - 12-17-2015, 07:23 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by thxbb12 - 12-17-2015, 08:04 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-17-2015, 08:10 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by JJ_SO - 12-17-2015, 08:41 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Brightcolours - 12-17-2015, 08:51 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-17-2015, 09:02 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by JJ_SO - 12-17-2015, 09:12 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-17-2015, 09:17 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by JJ_SO - 12-17-2015, 09:47 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by thxbb12 - 12-17-2015, 09:54 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Brightcolours - 12-17-2015, 10:47 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by JJ_SO - 12-17-2015, 11:38 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by thxbb12 - 12-17-2015, 12:23 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by joachim - 12-17-2015, 12:50 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Brightcolours - 12-17-2015, 01:35 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by goran h - 12-17-2015, 01:53 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by thxbb12 - 12-17-2015, 02:12 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Brightcolours - 12-17-2015, 02:59 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-17-2015, 03:02 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by joachim - 12-17-2015, 07:01 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by thxbb12 - 12-17-2015, 09:52 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Brightcolours - 12-17-2015, 10:34 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by thxbb12 - 12-17-2015, 11:42 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-18-2015, 01:31 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Brightcolours - 12-18-2015, 07:08 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by toni-a - 12-18-2015, 11:00 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-18-2015, 02:55 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by toni-a - 12-18-2015, 05:27 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-18-2015, 08:46 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by thxbb12 - 12-19-2015, 12:39 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Brightcolours - 12-19-2015, 12:48 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by thxbb12 - 12-19-2015, 03:30 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-19-2015, 07:15 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by thxbb12 - 12-19-2015, 07:43 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-19-2015, 09:51 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Brightcolours - 12-20-2015, 09:28 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by JJ_SO - 12-20-2015, 01:36 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Brightcolours - 12-20-2015, 09:06 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Klaus - 12-20-2015, 10:20 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Klaus - 12-21-2015, 02:00 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Klaus - 12-21-2015, 02:37 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Guest - 12-21-2015, 08:03 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Brightcolours - 12-21-2015, 10:58 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-21-2015, 05:27 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by JJ_SO - 12-21-2015, 05:36 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by thxbb12 - 12-21-2015, 05:54 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-21-2015, 08:34 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Brightcolours - 12-21-2015, 11:08 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Ayoh - 12-22-2015, 12:12 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Brightcolours - 12-22-2015, 12:37 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by JJ_SO - 12-22-2015, 11:57 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-23-2015, 08:02 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by JJ_SO - 12-23-2015, 08:43 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Brightcolours - 12-23-2015, 11:35 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-23-2015, 07:57 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Brightcolours - 12-23-2015, 08:26 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by JJ_SO - 12-24-2015, 12:26 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by thxbb12 - 12-24-2015, 12:38 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Brightcolours - 12-24-2015, 06:55 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-24-2015, 11:34 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by JJ_SO - 12-24-2015, 12:11 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-24-2015, 12:51 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by JJ_SO - 12-24-2015, 01:09 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-24-2015, 01:36 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by JJ_SO - 12-24-2015, 02:13 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-24-2015, 02:40 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-24-2015, 03:10 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by JJ_SO - 12-24-2015, 04:08 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Brightcolours - 12-24-2015, 06:31 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-24-2015, 07:28 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-24-2015, 07:36 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Brightcolours - 12-24-2015, 08:22 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-24-2015, 08:43 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-24-2015, 08:50 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by JJ_SO - 12-24-2015, 09:28 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-24-2015, 10:04 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by JJ_SO - 12-24-2015, 10:46 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-24-2015, 11:31 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by JJ_SO - 12-25-2015, 12:26 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Brightcolours - 12-25-2015, 01:45 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-25-2015, 06:59 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Brightcolours - 12-26-2015, 11:27 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Ayoh - 12-26-2015, 03:02 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-26-2015, 03:53 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by JJ_SO - 12-26-2015, 04:16 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-26-2015, 07:12 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by JJ_SO - 12-26-2015, 08:40 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-26-2015, 10:22 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by JJ_SO - 12-26-2015, 10:54 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Brightcolours - 12-26-2015, 11:04 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Ayoh - 12-26-2015, 11:09 PM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by JJ_SO - 12-27-2015, 12:55 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Ayoh - 12-27-2015, 01:04 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by JJ_SO - 12-27-2015, 08:46 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by Ayoh - 12-27-2015, 09:51 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by JJ_SO - 12-27-2015, 09:59 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by davidmanze - 12-31-2015, 09:48 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by JJ_SO - 12-31-2015, 10:47 AM
5DMKIII versus 7DMKII - by JJ_SO - 12-31-2015, 02:39 PM

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