10-29-2020, 01:47 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-29-2020, 01:54 PM by Brightcolours.)
Nice compact 50mm f1.8.
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Especially in comparison to the Nikkor S 50mm f1.8 and Sony/Zeiss 55mm f1.8 lenses, which are priced and sized more like 50mm f1.4 lenses used to be.
Lets wait and see what the lens construction will be like. It looks like it will be the 1st prime that lacks a separate control ring (the 24-240mm zoom lens lacks a separate control ring too).
Looks tiny, nice.
Hopefully it will be good optically.
I'm quite curious because the RF system desperately needs affordable lenses.
It will now have a 35mm f1.8 macro, 50mm f1.8, 85mm f2 macro, 24-105mm f4, 24-105mm f4-7.1, 24-240mm f4-6.3, 70-200mm f4, 600mm f11, 800mm f11 on the "affordable" side. An f4 UWA zoom will appear soon too, so things are improving on the "affordable" side.
(10-29-2020, 07:36 PM)Brightcolours Wrote: It will now have a 35mm f1.8 macro, 50mm f1.8, 85mm f2 macro, 24-105mm f4, 24-105mm f4-7.1, 24-240mm f4-6.3, 70-200mm f4, 600mm f11, 800mm f11 on the "affordable" side. An f4 UWA zoom will appear soon too, so things are improving on the "affordable" side.
It's getting better, although it wasn't very difficult given how much they started with crazy premium lenses.
At $1100 I wouldn't call the 24-105 all that affordable.
I cannot find the 70-200 f4 anywhere (not in Switzerland nor at bhphotoandvideo in the US).
Most other lenses are in the $700-1000 range.
The truly affordable lenses in that list are really the 35mm and 24-105 STM.
Hopefully this 50 will be similar in price to the 35mm.
I think in terms of affordability the upcoming RF 100-400 IS (non-L) will be far more relevant than all the primes in the "budget" segment.
If you throw in the Samyang RF 14, you may some something that is feasible for "normal mortals".
The 70-200mm f/4 is probably less interesting.
FWIW, I still have the Sony 70-200mm f/4 G in my closet - I haven't shot a single image with it in the last 6 years. While "affordable" this lens class seems rather useless to me - too slow, too limited, too much overlap with any half-decent 70-300mm f/4.-5.6. But Ok, maybe it's just me.
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This 50 could be constructed like the Sony or Nikon F 50/1.8s: good old Double Gauss but with one aspherical element out back to raise the quality some. Sure doesn't look like one of those modern, complicated designs judging by the size...
10-29-2020, 10:15 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-29-2020, 10:18 PM by Brightcolours.)
(10-29-2020, 09:53 PM)Rover Wrote: This 50 could be constructed like the Sony or Nikon F 50/1.8s: good old Double Gauss but with one aspherical element out back to raise the quality some. Sure doesn't look like one of those modern, complicated designs judging by the size...
The Sony you refer to is the same design as the Canon EF 50mm f1.8 (all 3 versions). Just with a built in SLR to mirrorless adapter. This new Canon sure does not look like that... It would be quite a bit longer.
https://static.bhphoto.com/images/images500x500/sony_sel50f18f_fe_50mm_f_1_8_lens_1459251297_1242613.jpg
(10-29-2020, 07:50 PM)thxbb12 Wrote: BrightcoloursIt will now have a 35mm f1.8 macro, 50mm f1.8, 85mm f2 macro, 24-105mm f4, 24-105mm f4-7.1, 24-240mm f4-6.3, 70-200mm f4, 600mm f11, 800mm f11 on the "affordable" side. An f4 UWA zoom will appear soon too, so things are improving on the "affordable" side.
It's getting better, although it wasn't very difficult given how much they started with crazy premium lenses.
Yes, one thing I'm struggling with the mirrorless systems are all the large, heavy, and super fast lenses. Then add commensurate pricing.
Is the reason because photography, from an ILC POV, such a niche market it needs to "show-off" compared to cell phones? Or has supersizing beverages rubbed off on the photography world? LOL!
I would think a 24-120ish mm f3.5-5.6 that is good open and very good down a couple stops would be the bread and butter lens for manufacturers. Particularly with the ability of newer cameras to shoot at higher iso's with quality results.
(10-29-2020, 10:15 PM)Brightcolours Wrote: (10-29-2020, 09:53 PM)Rover Wrote: This 50 could be constructed like the Sony or Nikon F 50/1.8s: good old Double Gauss but with one aspherical element out back to raise the quality some. Sure doesn't look like one of those modern, complicated designs judging by the size...
The Sony you refer to is the same design as the Canon EF 50mm f1.8 (all 3 versions). Just with a built in SLR to mirrorless adapter. This new Canon sure does not look like that... It would be quite a bit longer.
https://static.bhphoto.com/images/images500x500/sony_sel50f18f_fe_50mm_f_1_8_lens_1459251297_1242613.jpg
The Sony does have one aspherical element while the Canons have none. Mind you, not that it seems to salvage the lens all of a sudden, as the review by Klaus had shown...
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